New Realities recorded on January 18, 2020
Summary
Alan Steinfeld interviews astrologer William Stickevers about the historical significance of the Saturn-Pluto conjunction. They discuss how these planetary alignments have correlated with major shifts in civilization over the past 2,000 years and predict upcoming global changes, including economic resets, the rise of a new global paradigm, technological advancements, and potential extraterrestrial disclosure.
Transcript
Alan Steinfeld
Welcome to New Realities. I’m Alan Steinfeld. This program is about conscious evolution and the unfoldment of our planetary civilization. That’s why I’m talking tonight to one of the experts, one of the visionaries, one of the people who’s probably spent a lot of his time understanding the cosmic cycles, William Stickevers. Thank you, William.
William Stickevers
Thank you for having me on your show, Alan.
Alan Steinfeld
Of course. You’re always full of information. So, I know you helped me. I mean, you were there at the panel discussion at the Open Center. We did a whole evening of predictions. But let’s jump into, we just passed the conjunction, the Saturn-Pluto conjunction. Doesn’t seem like much. People predicted a big thing. There was stuff before that with Iran. Was that it? Does sometimes an event show up? No? What are you getting about this?
William Stickevers
Well, one of the things, if you remember at the Open Center, I didn’t really talk about Iran at all because I didn’t see anything of significant consequence occurring with Iran. I thought it was overblown, I thought it was all hype. I certainly didn’t see anything that would be indicative of an outbreak of a Third World War, which basically the media jumped at and said, we’re at war, this is it, batten down the hatches. I think the real issue has to do with the type of larger global transformation that is occurring. And if we just take a look real quick, just a quick.
Alan Steinfeld
Wait, let me just ask you, did you see anything for the January 10th eclipse?
William Stickevers
Well, it doesn’t really work like that. I mean, one of the things I want to point out is that when you look at a conjunction, the conjunction actually started in October 2018. And then it culminates in January, and then it’s still in effect until somewhere about May of 2021. So we get intimations of what it means generally leading up to it, but it’s not until after the exact conjunction that it manifests its full effect on the world stage. So a lot of astrologers, and these are natal astrologers, they’re not mundane astrologers, they don’t do stock markets, they don’t predict elections down to electoral college numbers, they don’t do things like that, they don’t play betting markets, they don’t have hedge fund clients, they are all saying, well, on this day there’s the conjunction and then the day after it’s all over with and we just all go away and talk about something else. That’s natal astrology, and that’s where natal astrologers are pretending to be mundane or political or geopolitical or financial astrologers. Or and when I say mundane I’m not talking just about politics, I’m talking about civilization astrology, the development, evolution, and events that unfold in the development of a civilization, or the self-unfoldment, individuation, or larger activation. Civilization is not only developing technologically, but it is growing in consciousness. It’s shifting.
Alan Steinfeld
That’s what you look at, the big picture. And I think that’s fascinating. And especially because we have such a good resource with the cycles of history to look back at and see, line that up with astrological configurations.
William Stickevers
Right. So this is what I want to get, I want to go just really quick over this because I think it’s something that we need to just get out of the way. So a lot of astrologers are just looking at that one day, where I’m looking at the period of time from October last year, actually the year prior, October 2018, all the way into the spring, early summer of 2021. And from that perspective, going all the way back, all the way back 2,000 years, when Saturn-Pluto first conjuncted in AD.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, when we look at Saturn-Pluto.
William Stickevers
Saturn-Pluto first conjuncted in the sign of Capricorn in 47 AD. So if we’re using AD till present, the first time it happened in 47 AD. What happens in 47 AD? That’s when the Apostle Paul starts his evangelist work. That’s when Christianity begins. And what is the belief system, and eventually the institution that supplants and replaces the Roman Empire? Is Christianity, the rise of the Roman Catholic Church. Right? But nobody knew in 47 AD when Paul starts his ministry that that’s eventually what would happen. So it’s a seeding period. Now, that’s one example. The next time Saturn-Pluto conjuncts is in 549 AD. So it conjuncts in Capricorn again, 549 AD, and that’s when.
Alan Steinfeld
Doesn’t it conjunct every 100 years or something?
William Stickevers
No, it actually makes a conjunction every 33 years. But we’re just looking at Capricorn.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, in Capricorn. I see.
William Stickevers
Capricorn. Right. So the last time it did that, in, so we went back to the first time, 47 AD, next time.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, there probably was before, right, before 47 AD?
William Stickevers
Well, there was, but I was just using the 2,000-year timeline that we have because it gets very blurry. If we go back prior to that, it gets very blurry. So I’m just using where we have accurate historical records.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, I gotcha.
William Stickevers
Okay, so in 549 AD, we see Emperor Justinian, the rise of the Byzantium Empire begins, and what he does, he comes out of nowhere and he says, I want to restore Rome to its old glory. And he tries in an attempt to reconquer all of the former collapsed Roman Empire and restart it, right? Which ends up failing, but what it’s really about is the rise of a new empire. Byzantium becomes this new dominant empire.
Alan Steinfeld
So are you saying every time Pluto-Saturn conjuncts in Capricorn, there’s a rise of something new?
William Stickevers
Collapse of an older empire, the rise of a newer empire, or the collision of two empires. So let me go to the next one. The next one is where we see it happens in 783, and that is when you see the Arab-Byzantium war where the caliphate, the Arabic caliphate comes to power and they take on Byzantium, right, in an all-out struggle. We also see Western Europe is in a complete Dark Age, right, from the fall of the Roman Empire, but then in 783, we have Charlemagne comes to power and you have the Charlemagne-Saxon wars where Charlemagne defeats the Saxons and he unifies all of the tribes in Europe into one big kingdom. And it is the beginning of the Carolingian era or Carolingian rule, which becomes the Carolingian Renaissance.
Alan Steinfeld
Charlemagne was quite an igniter of a new European culture.
William Stickevers
Right. He’s actually like the first attempt at a European Union. So you had a European Union with the Roman Empire. This was followed by a Dark Age. That came into fruition again during a brief period during his rule. And then his son started, after his death, his sons started fighting and each part of the empire eventually became Germany, France, Italy, etc. Okay? All the nation states that we see today. So that happened in 783. So 783 is the beginning of the medieval era. The medieval era starts in 783. Then we have the height of the medieval era with the next Saturn-Pluto in Capricorn, and that’s in 1284. And two things happen. So you see two things happen. You see the in the medieval era, what was the economic system? The feudal system. So the feudal system peaks and then it begins to collapse. The Mongolian hordes from Asia attack Europe. They try to invade, they get as far as Hungary, but they’re stopped, right? And at the same time that this is happening, there’s massive crop failures because it’s the end of the high medieval period because it’s the beginning of the medieval Little Ice Age. So there’s.
Alan Steinfeld
There’s also the Black Plague around that time.
William Stickevers
That’s the emergence of the Black Plague begins and begins to spread. So you see global cooling, crop failures, plague, the collapse of empires, China and Mongolia, the Mongolian hordes went into retraction. We also saw the beginning of the collapse of the Catholic Church.
Alan Steinfeld
And then this other thing you’re looking at is 1518.
William Stickevers
1518. Okay, then you have the next one is 1518, right? No, I’m sorry. Before that was 1284, the other thing that happened besides that collapse in 1284 is the emergence of the merchant class, the merchant class, the printing press, all that stuff, right, which laid the foundation for the Renaissance.
Alan Steinfeld
But didn’t the Crusades start around that time?
William Stickevers
No, the Crusades started way before then.
Alan Steinfeld
They did. Okay.
William Stickevers
Right. So this was actually at the time of the last crusade. So we’re seeing a shift and it went from, we see, this is sort of like the time that the Silk Road is going full throttle between China and Europe. And what ends up getting passed along.
Alan Steinfeld
Marco Polo, right?
William Stickevers
Marco Polo. So what does he pass along? He passes along two things that actually enables Europe to rise to power. Two technologies. He’s gun powder, right?
Alan Steinfeld
And spaghetti, right?
William Stickevers
Well, that’s more of a myth. But yeah.
Alan Steinfeld
He didn’t bring spaghetti from China to Italy?
William Stickevers
Right, they did, right. But the other thing he passed was paper money. China was using paper money. They were using fractional reserve banking in a very crude form, where their paper notes were being used as money instead of gold coins or silver coins. And that allowed banks, the European banks, particularly the Italian city-state banks of Florence to be able to use notes and print notes, right? And have only a small percentage of those notes backed by real money.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, that was a huge change, absolutely.
William Stickevers
Absolutely. So those two things, so what did the Europeans do with that money? They funded wars of expansion, they funded also exploration missions into South America, into all throughout the world, right, with all those ships, right. And number two, they use that gunpowder not for religious purposes, not for pleasing the gods, not for ceremonial, they weaponized it. And they started using it against all the other empires outside of Europe. Right, so that was the military empowerment. So they used these two technologies that basically allowed Europe to become or create the European miracle as we call it today.
Alan Steinfeld
That was in the 1200s, so what, let’s just back up a little bit and say what is it about the Saturn and Pluto energies in Capricorn that make it so transformational?
William Stickevers
Well, yeah, what it basically has to do is the collapses, it’s destruction of an old order so something new can arise.
Alan Steinfeld
Like Saturn is order and Pluto is what, transformation?
William Stickevers
That’s right, death. Death. There’s sort of an intensification, acceleration that occurs so some type of death rebirth process can take within civilizations.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. So from the 1200s where do we go?
William Stickevers
Well, so then after that period, we have that 1200 let me just bring it up here. So you have that 1284 period. Then the next time it’s there is in this period here, 2020.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh really? There’s no period between that?
William Stickevers
Well, there are Saturn-Pluto periods, but no other Saturn-Pluto period in which it’s in Capricorn. Aha.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh. So it’s 800 years between.
William Stickevers
About 600 years. 600 years and change, yes. 600 years between these two. Oh, no, hold on, let me retract back. Sorry about that. I missed one. So there’s a 1518. The 1518 Saturn-Pluto in Capricorn. So you have the 1200, 1518, then you have the current one. But what happened in 1518? Do you know what happened?
Alan Steinfeld
Was that Kepler, Galileo?
William Stickevers
Kepler, Galileo, but actually they were a little bit later, but what happens at that period? It’s the breakup of the Roman Catholic Church. Remember, the Roman Catholic Church controlled all these kingdoms.
Alan Steinfeld
Was that Martin Luther?
William Stickevers
Martin Luther. Martin Luther publishes his 95 Theses, posting them all on the door of the Wittenberg Church.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, 1518. Okay. That was the breaking up of the Roman Catholic Church.
William Stickevers
Which broke up, which actually broke up what they call, you know, and it was the, it was the complete collapse of the feudal system and at that time we saw the rise of the Ottoman Empire that takes on the Mamluk Sultanate in the Middle East, the Islamic Sultanate.
Alan Steinfeld
And also the rise of the Renaissance is really in full swing there.
William Stickevers
The Renaissance goes from the Florentine Renaissance to the full European Renaissance at that time.
Alan Steinfeld
Right, in painting and art and literature.
William Stickevers
That’s right. And it’s the beginning, it’s the seminal period of the Scientific Revolution, the printing press.
Alan Steinfeld
And also the Age of Exploration. Europe begins.
William Stickevers
Age of Discovery, exploration begins, and that’s when the first diplomatic mission of a European power is sent over to China. And also all those explorers in the New World. So that was a big deal. Right. That’s all going gangbusters at that time. You have Magellan, right, he comes up at that period. You also have Shakespeare at that time, don’t you? He’s a little bit later. He’s a little bit later. Yeah. But you have King Henry VIII, right, you have him come up at this time, right.
Alan Steinfeld
Break up from the Church too. The Church of England.
William Stickevers
Breakup of the huge empire of the Roman Catholic Church. That was a collapse. That was tremendous, right? So then the next one is the Jupiter-Saturn of today.
Alan Steinfeld
Wait, wait, but that was the building of a new merchant class, that really was a take-off of.
William Stickevers
It’s also the beginning, the inceptional period of the merchant class and where technology is now, technology and fractional reserve banking, using notes, is actually the means of economy and production. Manufacturing begins at this period.
Alan Steinfeld
It was the beginning, well, the printing press begins around then and, right? About that time.
William Stickevers
The printing press is a little earlier, but at this time everybody had a printing press and they were starting to use technology for the development of tools and equipment and machinery.
Alan Steinfeld
And also the rise of the middle class and the beginning of capitalism as capitalism as it would become.
William Stickevers
As it would become. It was very early. We still, you know, markets didn’t, you have markets at that time, but they’re, what it’s also happens at that time is interest rates. The first interest rate, right, where people borrow.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. But the Royals are no longer controlling the economy. It’s more in the hands of the merchants.
William Stickevers
The merchants and the bankers, yes.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, and the banks. Okay. The merchants and the bankers, yes. That’s where the banks start to take over in the 1500s.
William Stickevers
Right. Exactly. They start gaining power. They become more powerful than the Pope himself.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. Okay. So, then we have the 2018, 2025 I guess.
William Stickevers
2021, right. Saturn-Pluto conjunction, and this time, you don’t only have just the Saturn-Pluto, you have Jupiter conjunct the Saturn-Pluto. So Jupiter is very close to that Saturn-Pluto, so it’s like a, it’s a conjunction, but in a way, it’s a triple conjunction. So you’ve got to add the Jupiter factor.
Alan Steinfeld
Is that what we’re having now? We’re having a Saturn, Jupiter, Pluto conjunction at this time or.
William Stickevers
That’s right. That’s right. Yes.
Alan Steinfeld
When did that start?
William Stickevers
Well, it started now. It started now and Jupiter goes exact with it, right, by March into April. So it’s sort of like, it’s already here and then it all culminates. And so.
Alan Steinfeld
So Jupiter, Saturn and Pluto are all aligned in Capricorn.
William Stickevers
Correct. Right, right. And the last time that happened was 1284-85.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. What does that do adding the Jupiter element to Saturn in Capricorn?
William Stickevers
It expands, it intensifies, it expands it, it amplifies it, it pumps up the volume, it pumps up the voltage, it pumps up the amperage, it pumps up the capacity. It takes everything to an extreme level.
Alan Steinfeld
So that’s why you see something really starting to major happening in March?
William Stickevers
Yeah, and I think it’s already started. I don’t think we have to wait and say what could it be. I think we’re seeing the implosion of the banks already occurring. They’ve already injected nearly, they’ve injected 3 trillion dollars since September 17th into the bank market into the repo market, and they just had to inject more money today. They had to inject another 83 billion today.
Alan Steinfeld
Why are they injecting money into the market?
William Stickevers
Because the banks, there is a liquidity crisis. They don’t have enough money.
Alan Steinfeld
Who’s doing that, the government is injecting?
William Stickevers
The Federal Reserve is doing that and they’re not even calling it QE. And they’re not even putting it in the news. It’s all say if you’re an investor or you advise investors or a hedge fund guy or you invest in stocks, if you’re in the markets you know what’s going, you know that this crisis is going on. What the problem is, is that most hedge fund guys are calling me up and going, William, what is causing this problem? And what I can see is there’s two to four banks that are causing this problem. The two banks I’m sure of is JP Morgan Chase and Deutsche Bank. Right? And they are systemically insolvent, over-leveraged, and basically they need this massive level of liquidity to to remain operational. So the government is doing this actually the Federal Reserve, I should say. Which is not the government. It’s not federal, nor is it a reserve.
Alan Steinfeld
Nor is it government run anyway.
William Stickevers
That’s right. That’s right. It’s government regulated, right. Government regulated. So, but not government run. That’s right. That’s right.
Alan Steinfeld
Who runs, who owns the Federal Reserve?
William Stickevers
That’s classified. If you try and get their if you try and get a list of their principal members, it’s, they do not release that information. Senators can’t get that. Ron Paul tried to get it. They said, we reserve the right to keep that private. We have private investors and private banks who are members of the reserve. So that’s classified. So you don’t even have control of our money. We have an oligarchical elite, right, that are controlling our financial future.
Alan Steinfeld
So you think now, where you saw the collapse of the feudal system, the rise of Charlemagne, the collapse of Europe in the old way, and also So it’s the banks now, but what in a global scale, what do you see collapsing?
William Stickevers
Well, I see the type of world, the post-industrial, post-World War II, post-modern era world, you know, the geopolitical structure, the systems, its institutions, and the fractional reserve banking along with the fiat currency model, right, where you have a currency fiat that’s not backed by anything, no measure of consumption, no measure of production, no measure of just by purely faith in the government credit. That is coming to an end. It’s an experiment that really just sort of became fully fleshed out since 1971.
Alan Steinfeld
That’s what, when Nixon went off the gold standard was right? In 1970 something?
William Stickevers
Right. Yeah, August 15th, 1971.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, is that right. Wow. So everything has really been up in the air, ungrounded since then.
William Stickevers
Right, so for 49 years it’s ungrounded. For right. Or when since 1913 it really because that’s what created the problem, Federal Reserve. But then the gold standard was re-instituted somewhat in 1945, a quasi-gold standard called Bretton Woods, and that started to fail. Because when the the money wasn’t managed properly. You see, if you manage the money, that standard was taken.
Alan Steinfeld
Didn’t that start when the gold standard was taken away from the.
William Stickevers
Right. That’s right. That’s right. So that whole post-1945, post 1971, and what we’re having now is this petroleum, debt-based petroleum, petrodollar system is falling apart on, is falling apart at the seams, it’s falling apart at the seams I should say. And all of the damage control, all of this massive leverage that was built up where we have debt fueling the economy while they keep pumping more liquidity in, since 2008 has, that’s never been fixed. They never reformed the system. You know, the stewardship of the government, the White House, and Congress did nothing for eight years, right? And you saw Wall Street continue to make massive gains, and Main Street and corporate America continue to collapse as long along with Europe.
Alan Steinfeld
So what is going to happen?
William Stickevers
Well, we’re going to see a collapse of, we’re going to see a complete collapse of the type of world that the baby boomers in particular have been able to not only thrive. They thrive. So 1945, right, if you’re born 1945 to 1965 you’re a baby boomer, and if you just showed up, you just showed up and tried, you could make it. You could make it. You didn’t even have to finish your degree in college, you could make it. That world is coming to an end. You have now people who are millennials, Gen Z, Gen Z-ers, you have people who have PhDs who are still underemployed or unemployed, working in Walmart by the hundreds of thousands, you have 96 million Americans still looking for jobs since 2008 who can’t even get part-time work. They never fixed it. They never fixed anything. And see, this is all coming to a head, starting probably you’re going to feel it in the second half of this year, shortly after the election, definitely into 2021, and we’re going to see massive debt repudiation. The collapse of all of these institutions.
Alan Steinfeld
What is debt repudiation? What does debt repudiation mean?
William Stickevers
Well, well, basically they no longer allow they can no longer So what’s happening right now, I’ll give you an example. So corporations, since 2008, like Apple, for instance, and the rest of these companies, but Apple’s the biggest offender in this, is they’re since 2008, sales have been declining. Sales, right, the company sales, right, the sales to price ratio, the price of the stock goes up, the sales But no, it’s not just Apple, all of them. All of them. 92% of the companies on the S&P made no money this year, this past in 2019. They made nothing in sales. They actually lost substantially in sales. But the price kept going up. The valuation of the stocks. How come that’s happening? Debt is fueling the company. Now, what’s happened is Apple and all these companies have massive levels of debt. The level of debt for these top S&P 500 companies, I’m not even including the Dow companies, is now 12 trillion. Since 2008 they created 12 trillion dollars of junk debt that they cannot manage, pay off, support, or what they call service.
Alan Steinfeld
So when it all collapses.
William Stickevers
Debt well, let me just finish. The debt repudiation is when the market says, you’re not borrowing any more money because you can’t pay that debt and I’m gonna sell all of that corporate debt off, but there’ll be no buyers. So someone says, I’m not going to buy that debt because no one’s gonna they’re never going to pay it and I don’t want that debt. And that will be a liquidity crisis. And that number, just remember, it was 1 trillion, a bad mortgage securities, instruments that Goldman Sachs was selling to all the pension funds, selling it to you, selling it to everyone, that almost broke the world economy. Now we have 12 trillion. 12 trillion. It’s coming. And that’s the debt repudiation, debt liquidation, that’s when everything’s gonna go we’re going to see all this credit card spending, right, go away. Imagine if the credit cards, people just cut their credit card spending in half in New York City, what would happen in New York City? What would happen?
Alan Steinfeld
So that’s what’s gonna happen.
William Stickevers
That’s coming. And that’s coming in the second half of the year. It’s you’re already seeing it with the repo markets, everybody knows this is coming. But they can’t tell you, Alan. They can’t, because they got to keep you spending that money and they have to keep you putting money into the system, by, you know, because because they promised that you’re going to get this fat pension when you retire.
Alan Steinfeld
And you’re saying that’s not going to happen to people?
William Stickevers
That’s not going to happen because all of these pensions are underfunded, mismanaged, they were in trouble in 2008 and they never fixed them. There’s actually a website called pensiontsunami.com. You can look up what state your pension is in and most of the pensions listed there are in severe trouble. So here’s an example. If the stock market goes down somewhere between 10 to 20% or more, an average correction is around 33%, a crash is 50%, but let’s say it goes down 20%. The pension funds will not recover. And that’s I mean, you know, that’s going to happen at some point.
Alan Steinfeld
That’s happening this year, into next. But you also said there’s a building of another empire that happens at the time of.
William Stickevers
Right. Well, what happens is we have the Thucydides Trap complex emerge. And I talked about that at the Open Center. I think.
Alan Steinfeld
The Thucydides, the Greek historian who mapped the war between Athens and Sparta.
William Stickevers
Right. That’s right. So, it’s where we see the dominant power realizes the emerging power will supersede it if it doesn’t take proactive action to thwart it or destroy it or defeat it. And in the 16 scenarios we’ve seen since the first Peloponnesian war between dominant powers historically, out of 16, 12 resulted in all-out power struggles and wars where that dominant power would win, but at a great cost.
Alan Steinfeld
During these Pluto-Saturn conjunctions you say.
William Stickevers
Right, so every time I have a, I have the chart of every Thucydides war, every Thucydides war that occurred.
Alan Steinfeld
Thucydides wars mean this is where power struggles happen to for the control of the new emerging paradigm.
William Stickevers
Correct. Right, and who’s gonna who’s gonna run the show going forward.
Alan Steinfeld
Wow.
William Stickevers
So, I have that. And every time, every time, in terms of the there is a two or more outer planetary alignments. So two or more. The for example back in World War back in World War II, which was the last Thucydides conflict, military conflict, we had a Jupiter-Saturn-Uranus triple conjunction occur from 1939 to 1949.
Alan Steinfeld
Really?
William Stickevers
Yes. So now and then prior to that, in World War I, we had another triple conjunction. Then we had a different type, a set of conjunctions. Then the last time prior to that was the War of 1812 between the US and Great Britain, and where we saw France invade Europe and Russia with the Napoleonic Wars all occurring in 1812. So I could just go back to every Thucydides type of war and say, every time we have an alignment, every time the world is in an economic crisis leading up to it, every time there’s a currency war and trade war just before, right, while these alignments are coming into culmination, they result in a Thucydides geopolitical military-political conflict.
Alan Steinfeld
So that’s what the Jupiter, Saturn, Pluto triple conjunction is?
William Stickevers
It’s auguring it. Doesn’t say it absolutely will happen, right? But it’s implying, now you gotta admit, what’s happening with China is not good.
Alan Steinfeld
So you’re saying China is going to be battling the US for world domination.
William Stickevers
Correct. They’re going China is going for the title. They’re going to take on the champ. Meanwhile, while there’s this bigger geopolitical Kabuki theater going on, right, you’re going to see things really unravel elsewhere because nation-states are going to figure out, hey, the US has got its hands filled with China and Korea who are basically, which is a vassal state for China. And they can stop pulling their little shenanigans, right?
Alan Steinfeld
North Korea. North Korea.
William Stickevers
North Korea. I meant North Korea, right? So they’re a vassal state of China. So, look, you know, it’s going to get very complicated and I’m not so convinced that Iran is going to war and this is the end. Now, that’s just all I’m looking at the bigger picture, right?
Alan Steinfeld
The big global, like, how this is going to play out in the next 50 years to 100.
William Stickevers
100 years. The next 100 years. Because this is what seems to happen. Now what’s interesting about this period, this Saturn-Pluto period, is correlating with, is occurring at the end of the second decade of the new century, of the new 21st century. And every time that’s happened historically, we’ve had an X-Event or what they call in investing parlance a Black Swan. And these type of events.
Alan Steinfeld
You’re saying at the like we’re in the second decade of this century.
William Stickevers
Right. Every century going all the way back to the collapse of the Roman Empire, it was in the second decade.
Alan Steinfeld
Aha.
William Stickevers
Of every century, every new century, where we had an X-Event.
Alan Steinfeld
Give me an example of an X-Event in the past.
William Stickevers
World War I, go back 100 years, World War I. Go back another 100 years, you got the War of 1812 and the Napoleonic Wars that took out all of Europe, right? Consumed all of Europe.
Alan Steinfeld
The teens of those centuries. Like the 1814, 1914.
William Stickevers
Right. There you go, right. But we’ve passed that, we’re already in 2020. No, no, no. 2020 is still the second decade. 2021, right? So it’s 2011 to 2020. That’s how, that’s how decades are defined.
Alan Steinfeld
So you think there could be an X-Event, but not necessarily a war we talked about this, it could be.
William Stickevers
Right, it could right, let me explain, I’ll let me just explain what an X-Event. So for those of you who want to research this out, it’s up on my website. I’ll be talking about it in February with my global webinar. It’s going to be a very intense three-hour right. But X-Events occur again, like I said, into the middle part or late part of a decade, at the beginning of a new century, that correlates to the rise and fall of empires, large scale military invasions, revolts and social revolutions on a continental or global scale, political power struggles of international significance, unexpected outcomes in military campaigns, religious conflicts along with the outbreak of major World Wars to name a few. I’ll give you just an example, so like someone said, what’s the closest thing could we relate to to an X-Event? And I would say that the the unexpected and quick demise of the Soviet Empire and the Iron Curtain which happened very fast and very intensely.
Alan Steinfeld
The fall of the Berlin Wall all that. That was like overnight.
William Stickevers
Overnight. So.
Alan Steinfeld
But it didn’t happen during those decades. It happened in the 80s.
William Stickevers
Because it didn’t happen in the second decade of the 21st century, is one of the reasons we didn’t go to war. Usually when an empire is on the verge of collapse, what do they do when all else fails? They take you to war. In this case, that didn’t happen. And there’s there’s a number of reasons for that. But.
Alan Steinfeld
The Soviet Union could have went to war, they could have marched into East Germany and said we don’t want a collapse but Gorbachev was instrumental.
William Stickevers
Right. So the Soviet economy collapsed, right, a year prior to Gorbachev, Gorbachev comes to power, and then the political dissolution. So there was no they weren’t in an economic position to have a war with the US or with NATO. But the point is that I’m trying to give a like an ex event.
Alan Steinfeld
Like the fall of the Berlin Wall. Like 9/11 is probably an ex-event, right?
William Stickevers
I can see an example of an X-Event. Yeah. Yeah. So I’m it’s not just oh, Iran shot off a few missiles to Baghdad and this is World War III. No, that’s not an X-Event. Astrologers, stop it. You know, this is what the natal astrologers get all all worked up over.
Alan Steinfeld
So could an X-Event lead to a, my favorite subject, disclosure? Could that be an X-Event?
William Stickevers
Yeah, that’s exactly what I’m getting.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, okay.
William Stickevers
So there’s going to be hitting the red button, hitting the reset button. We’re gonna have a geopolitical reset, a financial reset, social reset, where you’re going to see all this like social revolution breaking out worldwide, occupy All Street, not Occupy Wall Street, All Street, okay? And you’re gonna see all of that happen. And that is gonna set off this.
Alan Steinfeld
These paradigm-shifting.
William Stickevers
X-Events are paradigm-shifting moments.
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah, they’re right. Moments. And so what event could be something like a UFO disclosure, right?
William Stickevers
Right. Well, that’s what I’m going to get to. The UFO, I’m thinking about remember, an X-Event is a complexity overload leading to the collapse of everything and the eventual transformational rebirth of a civilization thereafter, which, which, you know, so it’s paradigm shifting, right? So what I’m saying here is that definitely we have to factor in the UFO, the disclosure, the alien ET presence that has been bit of a military bit of a military issue especially for the United States since 1947. And by the way, in 1947, guess what combination of planets we had in conjunction? Take a guess.
Alan Steinfeld
Saturn-Pluto?
William Stickevers
That’s right. We had a Saturn-Pluto conjunction in July 1947. And what happens.
Alan Steinfeld
In what sign was that?
William Stickevers
I’ll tell you right now. Let me just go to Roswell incident here. I’m just looking at my screen here. And this conjunction occurred in Leo. Eight degrees of Leo, right? So 12 degrees of Leo I should say. So we had a Saturn-Pluto conjunction and that was occurring in the summer-fall of 47. And what happened during that time? We see the Roswell incident. And shortly after the Roswell incident, we see the rise of what? We see the rise of the CIA, FBI, National Security Act, Majestic 12.
Alan Steinfeld
Also before Roswell there was the sighting by Kenneth Arnold.
William Stickevers
That’s right. And that also occurred, I believe, in earlier 1947.
Alan Steinfeld
It happened June 24th, 1947, a week before Roswell.
William Stickevers
That’s right. That’s right. So we’re seeing this the Saturn-Pluto was there, right? The Saturn-Pluto, and then also around that time, we we there is a lot of disclosure events that are happening. We see Operation Majestic 12 come into force. We’re also seeing a huge economic boom for the US at that time. Well, what happened was, is remember that the rest of the world was in a massive depression after World War II, because everyone was destroyed except for the US. So the US was going, undergoing a massive recession because it needed to retool its military manufacturing for consumption. So the boom, okay, so if you asked anyone in 1947, is there a boom going on? Are you making tons of money? Most of them would say no. But that was the beginning of a restructuring period for the world. And remember what else happened in 1947? We gave all this money to rebuild Japan. All this money to rebuild Europe. Do they thank us today? No. But that resulted in a massive economic seeding period that would result in the type of middle, the rise What happens? The rise in the middle class happens from 1947 on. So.
Alan Steinfeld
And the middle class, and then the Levittowns, the suburban explosion, you know, people were leaving the cities, but they weren’t going to the country, they created suburbia.
William Stickevers
Right. Right. Exactly.
Alan Steinfeld
So that was a whole thing of the 50s and 60s.
William Stickevers
Right. So anyway, getting back to the X-Event of the UFO disclosure that comes out of nowhere. Of course we’re aware of that, but how does that actually show up, do you think? How will that show up? Well, you know, like we talked last year at the Open Center event that one of the predictions I made and a number of things did happen. I would see more compelling revelations that would come directly from the Pentagon, from the US government, not just, not just some whistleblower. Although that did happen as well.
Alan Steinfeld
No, that did happen. The Navy acknowledged they didn’t know what was going on, yes.
William Stickevers
That did happen as well. Right. Yeah. Get used to it. That’s what they said. They’re real and get used to it. So, we’re going to see even more. I’m now the reason I believe it’s going to be connected with Roswell and not just with Roswell but the events that were happening in 47, because there was a number of other craft that crashed in.
Alan Steinfeld
At least three crashes in New Mexico around at least that’s what Linda Moulton Howe says.
William Stickevers
Yeah. And there’s other confirmation of that from other researchers. I believe everything that was occurring in that Saturn-Pluto period in spring of 47 into early 48 is going to start creeping out in a very significant and powerful way as part of this larger or controlled disclosure event. Not just going to be a disclosure of you just get on with things, run up that credit card more and just know that aliens are real. Right? I don’t think it’s just gonna be I don’t think that’s what it’s gonna be about. I think it’s about it’s gonna be paradigm shifting to the point where people are gonna break away from their current belief systems and embrace this new cosmological spirituality which will somehow coalesce into some type of formalized religion.
Alan Steinfeld
Do you think it has to do with an ET influence though?
William Stickevers
Absolutely. And I believe the ETs have been engineering this and this is part of what’s being rolled out. And I believe this part of the government that wants to stop this. They have to stop this because this type of belief systems, this cosmic, you know, cosmic American cosmic belief system, right, is goes against the type of governance and centralized authority and resource and power structure that’s been in place for the past 2,000 years.
Alan Steinfeld
And also goes against the established religions that have been in place for 2,000 years.
William Stickevers
Bingo. Exactly where I was going. So I, I believe this is part of the disclosure. It’s not just disclosure and more documents come out and, and, and now witnesses. That’s going to happen.
Alan Steinfeld
The reformatting of our belief system and world view.
William Stickevers
Right. Especially when we find out our true origins as a species, that we are an essentially engineered race.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, that And the hybrids and that we’re not alone in the universe and there’s more to, let’s call it, God’s creation and other beings look and breathe and, and are maybe have a greater intelligence it really.
William Stickevers
Well, let’s just say they may not have a greater intelligence, they just at a different state of consciousness, right? Because let’s just face it, most of us use very little of our brain. Most of us you know you have more ability than you execute because of your own indolence or your own laziness or your own lack of passion of trying to achieve something at the ultimate potential of what you can achieve. All of us are guilty of this, right? So we’re not really accessing our brainpower or our.
Alan Steinfeld
Let’s access our brainpower and start a new religion about that.
William Stickevers
There you go. That’s where I think it’s going. And it’s it goes just beyond intellect.
Alan Steinfeld
But that is what people like Joe Dispenza are doing that. They’re just doing exactly that.
William Stickevers
Right. So we’re gonna see a lot more of this and I think that’s what 2020 is about. It’s very hard to say what’s gonna be the moment or the event or the day, but I really think this is gonna be a year that was very close to what we saw in 2009 to yeah, definitely 2008, 2009 with the level of intensity. And I think that.
Alan Steinfeld
But even more intense because this is a revelation, if you’re talking about the ETs, of a higher octave of something else going on.
William Stickevers
Right. I think Diana Pasulka, her book American Cosmic, lays down beautifully this whole sociological perspective of this emerging cosmic religion. But I call it.
Alan Steinfeld
I’m using the word religion in a very broad sense.
William Stickevers
Right, I call it more of a global revelation of who we are as human beings. Okay, so there will be a global revelation and when the dust settles, it’ll be sort of codified. And dogma’s not a bad word. It’s just there’s sort of a codified construct of a revelation or spiritual experience. And that’s what I’m seeing eventually.
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah, dogma has a negative mindlessness to me. It seems like a more of a mindless, but I think the self-responsibility I mean by the end of this century it could be some pretty amazing things that would happen. Do you see that?
William Stickevers
Yeah. So I, I look, I think it’s going to get very topsy-turvy, very intense, a lot of people who’ve been living off that credit card or just going from job to job or thinking they’re gonna retire and move to North Carolina and live in a big McMansion. I think that’s all coming to an end. I think.
Alan Steinfeld
Each generation is going to experience a different a different transition as this unfolds.
William Stickevers
But, but I just let’s just, I mean we should wrap up soon because but let’s just look at, you know, the beginning of the 1900s, end of the 1800s, beginning of the 19th, 20th century and look at the end of the 20th century. That was a huge leap. That’s right. And I believe we’ll be there, I believe being an optimist, long-term optimist, I definitely believe by 2050 we’re going to be in a vastly different world at every level that goes beyond what we can fathom now. I mean, just keep in mind the type of like what I did for 20 years didn’t even exist in 1990. I was a I was a computer infrastructure engineer, right?
Alan Steinfeld
That didn’t even exist, that title.
William Stickevers
Operating system, infrastructure engineer. That just didn’t exist in 1990.
Alan Steinfeld
What will exist in 20 years that we’re not seeing now is really, right?
William Stickevers
Well, I believe we’re gonna, that’s right, I believe there’s whole industries I believe AI is gonna be the greatest game changer since man discovered fire.
Alan Steinfeld
It can be. It can make, I mean, driverless cars and all that.
William Stickevers
Beyond that. It’s gonna be beyond that. It’s going to be possible for medical singularity to occur, by, in a very short amount of time where every year you age chronologically, you get one year younger biologically.
Alan Steinfeld
And of course, building, rebuilding your own organs from your own stem cells and that’s, that’s.
William Stickevers
Right. All of that, medical singularity. We’re going to see some, some change Look, the finance system is, it’s not just about the banks, it’s about currency. Crypto is here, it’s not going away. And, money as we know it is going to go through such radical changes. It’s gonna, it’s gonna have a completely different meaning and identity for us by the time the dust settles. Certainly by 2030. And just remember one thing, then in 1919, how many people had cars? What? 9%, 10%? By 1930 everyone had a car. And it’s the same with crypto.
Alan Steinfeld
I think the another X-Event could be the discovery of free energy. I mean they already discovered it, but the massive, you know, use of free energy. You have a little unit in your house, you plug in.
William Stickevers
Right.
Alan Steinfeld
And you don’t need to be a slave to work for your own.
William Stickevers
Right, so I think fusion technology, cold fusion, hot fusion technology. They already have a fusion engine for military jet aircraft.
Alan Steinfeld
Well something else that’s even beyond fusion, something even simpler.
William Stickevers
Well, I’m just talking about what’s possible by 2030. They might have, right, a zero what do they call it? Zero zero point.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. Or other alternative energy.
William Stickevers
You know, there’s a problem with all of that too. You gotta be a little realistic. Even if they came out with an engine, right, the cost of you still have to build it out, build out the infrastructure, you still have to you’re still gonna have this infrastructure overlay that’s going to have to occur. And that’s not going to happen in 10 years, it’s going to take more like 30 years before it’s complete.
Alan Steinfeld
But that’s a real X-Event when we’re no longer a slave to energy.
William Stickevers
Slave to fossil fuel.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, slave to energy in general.
William Stickevers
Well energy, energy we’re always gonna be using.
Alan Steinfeld
But if there’s free energy.
William Stickevers
Right. Well, fusion energy would essentially be free energy. We’re talking not fission, we’re talking about fusion, right?
Alan Steinfeld
Or something that just taps into the zero point within this little centimeter of space, and boom, we could, you know, harvest the deserts, water from the ocean.
William Stickevers
Right. So there’s that development. In manufacturing, we have 4D printing now. Forget just 3D, people are gonna be manufacturing homes and cars right out of their garage.
Alan Steinfeld
What’s 4D printing?
William Stickevers
It’s, I don’t quite understand it. I was just told this by a client of mine who’s an engineer out in Chicago and he’s working, he’s actually writing his paper on 4D printing which they already have developed but it hasn’t been rolled out yet. And it’s something that the government is, been putting a lot of money behind to supersede China to ensure that we remain ahead of the curve when it comes to these type of emerging Fourth Industrial Scientific Revolution technologies. So 4D printing, 6G, not 5G, 6G wireless communications, and what is also coming out is wireless power. You just, you never wireless power.
Alan Steinfeld
Tesla had that years ago and it was suppressed. I mean that was a whole.
William Stickevers
Right, all of that. So all of that’s coming and it’s gonna be a radically different world, but it’s not just about that type of technology. It’s, it’s going to change AI, the integration of AI with crypto, the integration of crypto not just in terms of money but crypto that’s going to be embedded into everything. So there’ll be the blockchain technology revolution is just as significant as what was happening when the car revolution was occurring 100 years ago. So I think, you know, it’s very exciting but there’s gonna be, it’s gonna be very turbulent and not everyone’s gonna get through this easily.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, we’re going to come back to you for updates. I mean, but that’s No, that’s a really great big picture look at the coming century really in a way, next 50 years.
William Stickevers
Yes.
Alan Steinfeld
So that’s exciting. Thank you.
William Stickevers
Very exciting. Well, thank you for having me on the show. It’s always a pleasure. I always like coming out and doing that presentation at the Open Center.
Alan Steinfeld
Just tell me though, where are you gonna be, how people can find you, what’s upcoming?
William Stickevers
Yeah, people can find me at my website williamstickevers.com. I have a Patreon channel. It’s called Global, Global Astrology, Global Transformational Astrology. They can look me up on Patreon. I’m I’m on three times a month. I go into this. I put on slideshows, very detailed slideshows along with what I’m talking about. I go into the economics. I go into everything. I go to consciousness level. I deal with the psycho-spiritual death-rebirth processes historically. I also make a lot of predictions. I make a lot of predictions. I make more predictions in a month than most astrologers make in years, okay? And I got about an 87% accuracy rating. And I’m not going to be right about everything. And not everything about what I said today. But I’m very confident by following astrology and trying to be as impartial as I can be, right, we can get a very clear sense of where we’re going. And people can just reach out to me and, you know, and we can definitely take this journey together as this unfolds.
Alan Steinfeld
Thank you William. Thanks a lot.
William Stickevers
Thank you, sir.
Alan Steinfeld
Stay in touch. Okay. William Stickevers, ladies and gentlemen, williamstickevers.com. Alan Steinfeld for New Realities. If you want to reach me, subscribe to youtube.com/newrealities or on my website newrealities.com.
