New Realities recorded on March 26, 2023
Summary
In this engaging discussion, Alan Steinfeld and Neil Gaur speak with Robert Edward Grant about his upcoming presentation at the Portal to Ascension conference. They delve into Robert’s passion for connecting the dots across reality, discussing topics like sacred geometry, crop circles, the simultaneous filing of patents globally, and the shift towards a heart-brain consciousness. The conversation extensively covers Robert’s groundbreaking discoveries of hidden codes, symbols (like the Alpha Omega), and mathematical ratios embedded within Leonardo da Vinci’s masterpieces, such as the Vitruvian Man, the Mona Lisa, and the Last Supper, and their profound connections to ancient Egyptian structures like the Great Pyramid and the Osirion at Abydos.
Transcript
Alan Steinfeld
Welcome to New Realities. I’m Alan Steinfeld. I’m here with Neil Gaur who’s putting on this incredible conference called the Portal to Ascension in San Diego, April 21st to the 23rd, 2023. We have one of our keynote speakers with us today, Robert Edward Grant. And I’m really excited about going deep into his work because, I don’t call him a polymath. I call him someone who’s connecting the dots of the complete reality that we’re existing in. But before we go there, Neil, why don’t you give us a little overview of what the whole conference in San Diego is about?
Neil Gaur
Yes, for sure. Hello everybody, welcome. I’m excited for today because we’re actually starting a series of interviews with the speakers for our conference, starting with Robert Edward Grant. Robert just asked a few minutes ago, what is the overall mission of Portal to Ascension? What are we doing? What have we created and the intention? We feel that it’s a good way to start out this conversation here is to really talk about how we got to where we are today. I’ve shared this a few times before, but we did start around 2008. In 2008, Portal to Ascension started with small sound healing groups. It was really after eight years of deep rabbit hole research and just going into ancient history and really trying to look for the root of all religion, where it all came from. In 2008, after creating a Facebook group and all these individuals joining and sharing information, I decided to create Portal to Ascension. Started with small sound healing events up and down the coast from San Diego all the way to Vancouver. By 2010, I started experimenting with conferences. The intention always was, the reason why all this started, the reason why this conference is happening is because my original thought of what is the root of all religion. By looking for the root of all religion, because I saw there were so many similarities in all these ancient scriptures, from Krishna to Jesus to so many different stories, Sumerian scriptures being reiterated over and over, why is it that so many people speak about what makes us different rather than what makes us the same and the similarities between ancient texts, even though the information isn’t even hidden in plain sight. It’s right in front of us. That started making me look deeper and deeper down. That took me to the extraterrestrial question, sacred geometry, consciousness, and eventually the understanding that we are going through a shift in consciousness and that we’ve gone through these shifts, these devolutions and evolutions so many times. From that original intent, we’ve now created over 5,000 productions since 2008. Online events, live conferences, retreats, tours. For the last three years, we’ve been silent with events, because we could not do live conferences in the way we did before. So this event is huge for many reasons because it’s the return of Portal to Ascension live events. We’re going to have a series of live events this year in Vegas and Sedona and the UK. So it’s really a celebration of us coming together and connecting in oneness and also riding the wave of the fact that this awareness has picked up on a whole new level, especially this year. With all the events going on, all the people taking people to Egypt and so much occurring that it’s really time for us to come together and make some real change, create some networks and connection so that we can literally shift this paradigm. Because there’s really no holding back anymore. This is game time. This is the time we came here to be here and what to do. Now, that’s my long story of why we do what we do. I’m excited to bring together these people. So I’m going to hand it over to Alan to officially introduce Robert Edward Grant in a second. But these individuals that we have at this conference, we really dive deep into their awareness in order to kind of select the ones that we resonated with so much to create a full circle awareness. Like you come to this event, music, entertainment, education, ancient history, extraterrestrial awareness, consciousness. So many different aspects and all of them are different modalities, if you will, to take you to that ultimate truth of us all being interconnected. Hope to see you guys there. ascensionconference.com is the website. You can also tune in virtually if you can’t attend live. So that’s the long story.
Alan Steinfeld
You got me excited. I want to go right now. Well, it’s a big part of everything Neil mentioned, ancient civilizations, symbology, music, and what the future really holds for human civilization. So that’s really where I want to jump in on this conversation because I’ve watched your videos, some of them, to just get my understanding of your work. And what I found there was a passion, a passion for what I would call the implicate order of David Bohm. You are looking for the underlying structure, that’s what I saw. Where did this passion emerge from? We’re all grow up normal childhood or somewhat, and then when did you ignite that passion for connecting the dots? I’m just curious.
Robert Edward Grant
You know, I think I can’t remember when I didn’t have that passion for connecting the dots. The thing is is that it’s hard to say and hard to see also how the dots connect until you can see them in retrospect. And I think that’s that was a quote that was given by Steve Jobs at a graduation ceremony. He was basically speaking at at Stanford University. You need some years under your belt to see how the dots connect. And then you can see how they all connect and create many beautiful patterns. It’s like a tapestry or mosaic that you didn’t know what it was because you’re just looking at all these individual puzzle pieces without seeing how there’s a connectedness to the entire whole. And it reminds me of Leonardo da Vinci’s quote where he said, learn how to see, realize that everything connects to everything else. And I think that’s such a powerful thing. We tend to think we’re very separate from the rest of the world around us. We don’t see how how we brush our teeth in the morning connects to the rest of our day and we don’t see how we ourselves through this infinite vacuum space are actually connected to everybody else to the same consciousness of this beautiful universe that is really just another way of looking at monadicity of oneness. And I am very excited about what’s happening in the world right now because the consciousness shift is dramatic and swift. I don’t think it’s I think it’s much faster than even I could have comprehended. It would have been only a few years ago. And it’s exciting to see people really realizing that they are part of a connected whole. And when you’re part of that connected whole then you see how the dots connect every single day in every single moment.
Alan Steinfeld
So I think part of this consciousness shift is what you point out a lot in your work. We’re seeing new patterns, patterns of perception. What are these new patterns you’re seeing that is amplifying this acceleration of consciousness from your perspective?
Robert Edward Grant
Well, you know during COVID one of the things that was kind of interesting is that QR codes took off in their usage, right? Because we all went to the restaurant, there were no more menus, so we had to use our phones to figure out how to read our menus. And that actually was a good metaphor for what’s happening with us with geometry right now. Every time we take into our consciousness a new geometric form or pay attention to it, it’s literally a QR code for our subconscious mind. It is raising our consciousness without us even knowing it. It will have a subtle impact and really all these higher dimensions of perception are all in the subtle realms. It’s not like in your face type stuff. You know if we were flat landers and someone came to us and tried to describe to us what the depth perception would be, right, which would be a z-axis when you looked at sort of a Cartesian plane in three dimensions, then it would be difficult to explain it because you’d have to use words from only a two-dimensional world to describe what someone else is seeing and feeling. And I think what’s happening right now is that en masse people are starting to be able to perceive these subtle realms of consciousness that they couldn’t experience before. And some do it simply by studying geometry, some actually get there through psychedelics and other means to be able to sort of shortchange or sort of skip a few rungs on the ladder. But eventually everybody is going to be able to see some of these aspects of higher dimensional perception just because of where the Earth is in the solar system and where the solar system is in the galactic cycle around our central sun, which is actually not just our sun Helios, but actually the galactic center, the galactic disk.
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah, you know you start about new patterns and new geometries. This is why I love crop circles because I felt whoever’s doing it from whatever level, they’re giving us new patterns that start to encode and wake up a deeper neurological connection. Have you looked at the crop circles?
Robert Edward Grant
Oh absolutely. In fact one of the things that I wasn’t even aware of until somebody who goes by the name of Spirit Stem, her name is Melissa and she’s on Instagram, was following me and she’s definitely an avid crop circle follower. Like very much into it. And she started noticing a pattern between the artwork that I was posting on social media, when I would post a particular drawing, within the next day, if it was during crop circle season which is generally during the spring and summer and sort of early fall months, that the same crop circle of a very similar drawing would appear in Wiltshire, England or in France. And this happened now 17 times in the last three years. And so it caused me, because I wasn’t even aware of it, she was just pointing it out. She said you posted this last night on Instagram at like midnight your time, and then 5 hours later it was discovered as a crop circle in, you know, Southern England. And that’s kind of like something that really turned me onto it. So I started really looking into it. My colleague Alan Green and I started analyzing some of the crop circles. You may remember about a year or so ago there was a crop circle that looked very Freemason style. And we analyzed that and it was most definitely a Freemason symbol that later we were able to sort of decode. There was another symbology that was looked like a vesica piscis, but it was slightly modified from a vesica piscis and we analyzed that and we were able to decode that. There were messages in this. And so I started thinking, well, in the case where I was drawing these symbologies and they were showing up as crop circles either I had kind of some overzealous followers in somewhere in Southern England and in France, or maybe there’s something else going on. And it actually made me think of patents. You know I have about 60 patents and I just got, well I just got another one I didn’t know about. I got I thought I had one here but I actually had two that just came in. And these patents, you know are interesting because it’s been many times that I file patents that another person somewhere around the world files a patent on the same day for the same invention.
Alan Steinfeld
Right, right.
Robert Edward Grant
So then we have some sort of dispute sometimes. And so it makes me wonder, it’s like how did they come up with the same idea at the exact same time? How is this even possible? And when you start digging into it, you find that it’s a lot more common than you think. People that have never met, from halfway around the planet in Russia and the United States will end up putting forward a patent of the exact same invention at the exact same time. I believe it’s because our brains are not storage devices, rather they’re radio receivers and our heart is the tuning dial for those radio receivers. So when we tune in to these higher frequencies, we will start picking up things like new inventions. I don’t believe that our thoughts emanate from our brains. They’re literally non-local to our brain. And so I think the same is happening often with crop circles. And then I think probably some of the ETs are helping to to get them in place as well.
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah, when I tell…
Robert Edward Grant
Fake ones also, let’s be real. There’s probably some fake crop circles out there but I mean when I see some of these ones that are crazy complex, I’m like come on. How is that going to be?
Alan Steinfeld
But you know, even some of those fake ones, some of those guys who fake it said I don’t know where I got that idea to fake it in this shape. So there’s this…
Robert Edward Grant
Right. They’re just crop circle slaves to some, you know, larger consciousness.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, maybe all of us actually are, right? We’re…
Robert Edward Grant
Yeah.
Alan Steinfeld
What your designs are coming through from this higher level. The patents and their creative the creative flow is the spirit really that’s being downloaded into the physical form in a sense, it seems like. So what do you think is behind the crop? Is there a force you think it’s ET? Do you think it’s a manifestation of a collective consciousness as far as crop circles?
Robert Edward Grant
I think that it’s a manifestation, I mean I definitely believe in ETs and I’ve had experiences that I’ve talked about with them as well. But, and I don’t even call them them. It’s like we, it’s funny because we talk about extraterrestrial, and maybe probably the better way to term them would be intra-terrestrial. You know, they’ve been here all along. And, you know, I think what’s probably happening right now is that they’ve all been in many of them have been in higher dimension. And as we can start to perceive higher dimension, we could start to perceive them. We could start to experience them. And they also, my experience with them is that they’re very spiritual, and they believe in sort of a universal, a universal oneness as well. And you can almost think of them like Jedi Knights. You know, in fact, Arcturians, they have a a council which is basically the Jed Council. They literally call it that. And they see themselves as like guardians of the galaxy. They’re more like future humans that have sort of left Earth, you know, a long time ago in their timeline, but they’re no no longer bound by time because they’ve moved into a six-dimensional sort of viewpoint and perspective. So I think what’s happening is that as humanity starts to balance and starts to transcend beyond duality… That is a key, it’s almost like do you remember in Star Trek where they had this prime directive thing? The prime directive I think for planet Earth is there’s an imaginal line or a threshold that they’re not going to mess with us until we start transcending beyond duality. And that a significant part of the population has to transcend beyond this concept of light versus darkness, you know, sort of black versus white, all these things that we have as polarities in society, which are part of the seven Hermetic principles, which they also ascribe and believe to. I think once we start to transcend beyond that, two things happen. We start to perceive higher dimension and in the context of receiving higher dimension, our relationship with time fundamentally changes.
Alan Steinfeld
Do you know Robert Lawlor’s book, The Geometry of the End of Time? Have you…
Robert Edward Grant
Yes.
Alan Steinfeld
So he maps that out sort of in different dimensional geometries, which you get into. I mean, 3D’s pretty simple and some of the crop circles point to hyper-dimensional tesseracts.
Robert Edward Grant
Tesseracts, yeah. In fact, there was a tesseract on the 4th of July weekend that showed up. It was one of the ones that I had posted in my Telegram group, and which was a tesseract and an explanation, a new mathematical explanation for the imaginary plane of numbers. And the next morning a tesseract showed up in Wiltshire. Um, and so and it looked like you we’d recognize it. It was like a square with a tesseract base center but then also had overlapping and intersecting waves, uh, going around it as well, which is forming somewhat of a torus type of a field.
Alan Steinfeld
So you think they’re giving us the secrets to things like time travel, wormhole technologies is some of these designs showing us this?
Robert Edward Grant
I do, and I believe fundamentally that a lot of the stuff that I used to believe required like special machinery, you know, like a time machine or whatever, I realize now that that actually we are the time machine. Hmm. And we don’t need other devices to be able to astral project and to experience and to jump into different states of awareness across different dimensions of time-space. And that’s just the fifth dimension of our experience that we have not yet experienced on mass, but now many people are starting to experience.
Alan Steinfeld
So how do we change the modality of thought? I talk about the difference between cognition and recognition. How do we cognize this fresh way of thinking that will allow us to transcend the old dualistic mind?
Robert Edward Grant
I think the answer is actually with the heart. I believe that what’s happening right now that humanity is basically traversing through is a transition towards a heart-brain consciousness. So you know our our hearts actually have brain tissue in them. Around the SA node, which is right at the top of the heart, right above the atrial chamber right on the right atrial side, you have this bundle of nerves and tissue there that acts a lot like a brain. And this is also where the sodium potassium pump starts in your heart and it will contract the atrium. And then if you don’t have complete heart block, which is a condition you probably don’t want to have, then you’ll have that same signal go down to your ventricles and pump your ventricles. Now you your brain actually has also the ability to feel and our heart has the ability to think. So one of my favorite quotes is when the heart thinks and when the mind feels the river of wisdom flows.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh I’m going to show a little design that was in your film, your little documentary. I think this is what you…
Robert Edward Grant
Yes. Yes.
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah that’s exactly, so it’s emerging of heart and mind. This is the future of humanity. But how does that, how do we wake people up to our hearts heart math wisdom is sort of the heart wisdom. How do we because we are so intellectual. You’re an incredible intellectual too in that way, but how do you remember to drop into that feeling state?
Robert Edward Grant
You know I think one of the that’s one of the reasons why I have drawn so much geometry because that is you know every if you can look at your brain, on the left temporal lobe is where you are is your brain center for mathematics. On the right temporal lobe is the brain center for music. So music and math are just two sides of the same coin. But the center point of your brain, between those two centers of between those two brain centers of music and mathematics, left brain versus right brain, is the corpus callosum and that is where geometry finds its center. So geometry is this incredible balance between both science and art. And because of that, it strengthens your pineal gland and also will create an electrical canopy on your thalamus, right, in the corpus callosum to connect the left and right brains. So we’ve been taught in school that everything has to be to get better in science you have to study more science. And what I’m going to say to you right now is I don’t believe that at all. I believe that’s one of the things that’s absolutely wrong. It’s kind of like, you know, if I were an athlete and I wanted to really be in great shape to run a marathon. I wouldn’t only work out half of my body. Balance is critically important. So what we have is like a society where we are so left-brain oriented and have been for the last few hundred years that we’ve lost, you know, we’ve become almost hypertrophied on that side and atrophied on the other. And we’re not practicing empathy. So as a society right now, I think that one of the biggest challenges is is that, you know, I often say this that I don’t believe the world is a difficult place because people hate each other. I believe it’s difficult and can be difficult because people hate themselves. And mainly the reason why they hate themselves is because they practice no empathy towards themselves. They’re very hard on themselves. And when someone’s very hard on themselves, what happens is they project it to everyone around them and they start judging people around them with the things they don’t like about themselves. And they’re not even consciously aware of it. So coming out of this practice of thinking very left brain and moving into a heart-brain awareness requires an opening of the heart, a feeling of empathy. It’s a realization that your heart is as powerful as your brain and should actually be the lead on your day-to-day activities. And that requires a rise of the feminine. Because the feminine aspect is more akin to the right brain. If you’re right-handed. And the left brain would be more this rational thought. The right brain is going to be the irrational, the imagination, the creativity, the darkness. And the light is in the left brain. You know this very much goes directly to the concept of Eye of Ra versus Eye of Horus.
Alan Steinfeld
Right, I heard you talk about that. But do you think there was some kind of, not to get too much into conspiracy but, a kind of matrix, a kind of archonic matrix that’s been laid over humanity to lock them into non-compassionate left-brain rationalism that separate them from the divine feminine. I mean…
Robert Edward Grant
You know I believe fundamentally that we are in a simulation of our own making. And that we come here so that we can learn different things that we wanted to learn. I’ve completely transitioned from the world is happening to me mentality to nothing’s happening to me it’s… Yeah.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh I think we lost Robert for a second. I’m there you go, lost you for a second, go ahead. What were you saying, the world is not happening to you. I think you were saying it’s happening for you.
Neil Gaur
I think he has frozen. So how about this, we can take a little pause here real quick and maybe take a break and show a trailer while we wait for him back in.
Alan Steinfeld
Right, I think he’s just come back.
Robert Edward Grant
Yep, I’m back, I’m back. We’re having such bad weather here, it’s like hard to know what’s uh causing that. Are you guys there?
Neil Gaur
Yeah, we’re here. Can you hear me, Robert?
Robert Edward Grant
I sure can. You know maybe I should get out and come back in. I think that might be better.
Neil Gaur
Yeah, I think yours were is working. Alan’s actually frozen now.
Robert Edward Grant
Oh, it’s Alan’s, it’s frozen. Okay, I wasn’t sure about that.
Neil Gaur
You seemed fine. Anyways, you’re in the middle of a thought, do you want to just continue with where you were?
Robert Edward Grant
Yeah, yeah, totally. He’s still kind of frozen for me. Is he frozen for you?
Neil Gaur
Yeah, he’s frozen for me but I’ll get him back in right now. So yeah.
Neil Gaur
Yeah, you were saying something about, Alan was saying that you were saying, not something happening to you but something happening for you, right?
Robert Edward Grant
Right. So I know it’s, you know, it’s very easy to think that the world is happening to you when actually I fundamentally believe the world is happening for us. I I believe that every experience I’ve had, if I look back on even the worst, most difficult experiences, actually I look back on those now and say those some of those were the best experiences of my life because they led to my, you know, biggest challenges that then also yielded for me the greatest learning. And and very often that has been the case. I can’t think of many cases where a big challenge didn’t end up being the best thing that ever happened to me in some way, shape or form. For that point in my life.
Neil Gaur
Are you still there?
Robert Edward Grant
Yeah, I was just talking to Alan getting him back on. And then so how did this start all connecting with you for ancient civilizations? What was that connection for you? At an early age, did you always have the curiosity with the ancient past or was that something that came a little later?
Robert Edward Grant
I definitely always had an interest for ancient civilizations, there’s no doubt about that. However it became a huge thing for me starting really in 2017. I went on a trip to Egypt and it fundamentally changed my life. And you know it’s become such a great aspect of my life now where it’s I’ve derived a lot of fun and enjoyment out of going back and forth to Egypt. I just got back. In fact you could see my hat on my my 3D printer behind me. It’s still here. So basically ancient civilizations for me has been an incredible process to realize and remember who we are. I also believe that each one of us is this incredibly intricate and complex yet extraordinarily simple design that allows Source to experience itself through our eyes. And through each of our individual perspectives. I mean if you think about it this way, right, this is a geometry that I discovered called a grantyhedron, it’s a new geometric form. And if you looked at this and said okay how many sides are there on here? There are 16 sides, and there are eight regular pentagons and eight diamond-shaped pentagons as you can see here. And they’re all golden ratio related. So the length here is 1.618 and this is one. And all the rest of these are one, but the pentagon across from here to here is 1.618. You could say that the truth is a multifaceted prism where each of us is able of comprehending you know really for most of our lives only one facet. And that becomes our truth. And then finally when once we expand our consciousness we realize that what I thought was the truth and factual is actually only one facet of a larger prism of truth. So that means that as I expand my consciousness, if I could take in and understand more than just one facet. The more facets I can comprehend the more I have expanded my awareness. Until finally you get to a very very intricate prism that has billions or infinite number, near infinite number of facets. That is what you think about a Source creator would want to experience. Understanding and seeing it through each of the eyes of each of its creations to learn different perspectives to expand its whole experience.
Alan Steinfeld
Wow. And then we reach that, to do that, to make that to do that kind of practice, seeing those different perspectives increases our neurological cognitive functions that that make us into these divine beings. I think that’s where divinity lies. I think that’s where you’re going with some of that.
Robert Edward Grant
I think you’re exactly right and it’s really about learning to respect both the masculine for what it brings to the table and what the feminine brings. And it’s such a beautiful convergence when you really think about it. And the fact that we could all be here to help source consciousness expand its awareness as well gives a new purpose to life. It gives a new meaning and that each one of us also can expand in the same way. And and not only through this lifetime but through multiple lifetimes. And as we start to expand into the fifth dimension, we start to connect all the dots not only in this lifetime, but all of our former lifetimes that quite frankly are all actually happening simultaneous to now.
Neil Gaur
You know this sounds like you know the thousand petal lotus in Indian scriptures. When you were talking about the fractals and us looking at different facets to me I feel it’s kind of like similar to that. And it’s also like if we are so fractalized from the cosmic truth because there’s so many fractals towards it, we were, do you have any like do you ever wonder like how many fractalizations we are from the truth? Is this one matrix of truth? Is this one facet just only one aspect of even a greater part of Source? You know, and it’s almost like every single galaxy every single person we’re all destined to do what Source originally wanted to do itself, which is to experience ourselves. So we all become like source creator gods, right?
Robert Edward Grant
Yeah. You know I think the big shift that’s about to happen is that the world is going to separate into people that are able to transcend duality. And those that transcend are going to be able to live a totally different existence. We’ve got some bad echo now, I don’t know what happened here. Can you hear me?
Neil Gaur
Yeah, that was just Alan, I muted him.
Robert Edward Grant
Okay. So those that are able to transcend duality are going to have an entirely different experience on planet Earth. I mean they’ll literally live what’s going to feel like a heaven experience. Whereas those who remain in duality and double down on duality, in a way, those that expand into higher dimension should be thankful to them because it’s also making possible for them to expand into higher dimension. Because the universe has to always remain in balance. Every action must have an equal opposite reaction, without exception. You look at movies like Lord of the Rings, and the Orcs show up in the land at the exact same time that Gandalf becomes, Gandalf the Grey becomes Gandalf the White. And to get that higher degree of magic in the world. You also have to have a higher degree of darkness in the world. The two must always remain in balance. So for every person who’s going to go into a higher degree of ascension, right, there has to be an equal opposite reaction in the world. So this remaining in duality, and that’s going to be people that are like fighting for Republican or fighting for Democrat or fighting whatever right. That fighting, that polarity is going to be very very dense. It already is very dense. This is why I’ve stopped like really paying attention to the news. I’ve stopped like allowing this sort of like it’s almost like mental pollution and frequency pollution into my life because I I just don’t want to live that existence. I’d much rather realize that I don’t believe that we’re here to learn more judgment. I believe we’re here to learn to expand our perspectives to remember who we are. And then learn how to love and be loved. I don’t think we’re here to learn how to be better judges of the world around us. The context of this world is already judgment. So when we when we can expand beyond that, then we’ll have an entirely different world experience. And you know, people that are going to be if you look at all of the comic book films, Batman is a good one. So Batman begins and you have this one story about this fellow named Two-Face. You might remember him. And there’s a line by Two-Face in the movie where he says hope that you live long enough to defeat the villain, but not so long that you become the villain. Well actually it’s in every single case. People don’t realize if and when they’re villains. The villain always believes he’s a hero.
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah. So you’re saying we have to transcend duality but there’s always an equal and opposite reaction, which is a sense duality but maybe on a higher level, fifth-dimensional level you’re talking about entanglement. Which is an thesis about transcending duality because everything’s connected. And if we collapse the wave function into things and think in linear ideas we miss the bigger abstract picture which is the expansion of multi-dimensional awareness. Is that?
Robert Edward Grant
Yeah, I think it’s so difficult because we’re all sort of conditioned I think to think a certain way. And especially it could be our families or whatever, but we’re at that stage where like Yoda says you must unlearn what you have learned. And and I think that’s a very powerful reframing. Because once we can do that, then the whole higher dimensional realm is open to us. It’s it’s literally with the throat chakra. That is there are three layers within the throat chakra. There’s a self-awareness layer and not that many people have actually achieved true self-awareness. It’s difficult. Even in the business world, they always talk about people. I had a conversation today with a CEO who talked about someone he cared deeply for but said they were very much lacking in self-awareness. So not that many people actually truly achieve self-awareness. And then the next layer is self-actualization. And very few people really learn how to manifest and even if they do learn to manifest, it’s still dependent on a time function. But as you get to the next layer, the third layer of the throat chakra is called self-transcendence. And self-transcendence is independent of time-space. So you can there manifest things literally instantaneously. And live in an entirely different existence. But it requires the transcendence of duality. You have to step out of duality to be able to reside in that space.
Alan Steinfeld
And that’s what the great masters that you point out were teaching us, what you said about Leonardo da Vinci, learn the art of science and the science of art, I think that’s really brilliant from what he says. And then you know what da Vinci showed us in art and in science was sort of the unification of the heart and the mind, would you say, right?
Robert Edward Grant
I think that’s exactly right and you know another way you could put that statement is you could say, learn the brain of the heart and learn the heart of the brain. Yeah. And that will allow you to learn how to see.
Alan Steinfeld
You talk a lot about the Last Supper and its relationship to the King’s Chamber. Did Leonardo ever visit the King’s Chamber? How did he know how to align up the Last Supper in relation to that great chamber?
Robert Edward Grant
So Leonardo wrote, you know there are several books of Leonardo’s works. One of them is called Codex Atlanticus. And in reference 1336 and 1337, he is has written a draft letter to the Devadar of the Lieutenant Devadar of the Sultan of Cairo, Babylon. Now why would Leonardo write a letter to the Sultan of Cairo? And and actually he used the term Babylon because Babylon is in Cairo. There’s a part of Cairo called Babylon. And it was where Sultan Qaitbay, who was a very famous Mamluk Sultan, which is a class of, it’s kind of like during the Ottoman Empire time, these were cousins of the Ottomans. They were based out of Syria and they got control of all of North Africa including Egypt. And they put their headquarters in in Cairo. And Cairo was largely built up as a metropolitan city at the time by Sultan Qaitbay, over 250 structures today standing still from 1482 until 1500 were built by commissions that were put in place by Sultan Qaitbay. He was very heavy in trade and had very strong trade routes both with Milan and Florence and Venice. And so his boats would dock in Venice and you can find paintings in Europe of Sultan Qaitbay’s arrival in Europe several times, right, especially through Venice. Because he was setting out to actually create a very metropolitan modernized city in 15th-century Egypt, he wanted to bring on the very best architects and mathematicians and scholars to help him build this beautiful new city that was his dream. Among those were more than a hundred European scholars and polymaths. So if you look at the Babylon fortress in Cairo today, it doesn’t look like anything you’d imagine from Egypt, it looks exactly like a Tuscan castle. So he hired Leonardo da Vinci, and da Vinci chronicles the story of him being hired by him in this letter. Okay so this is there’s no dispute as to whether or not da Vinci wrote this letter. Right. Now what is that dispute is what he was referring to. Because what the letter basically talks about is his surveying of Mount Taurus. Now most people that are in art history don’t know that the original name of the Great Pyramid was Bull Mountain. They also don’t know that that’s a reference to Osiris. Because the Apis Bull is Osiris. And the other name of Osiris was the Great Bull of the West. So when you start adding all this up and then realize that the original name of the Giza Plateau was never Giza, but it was Rostau, which is Taurus backwards. So now you start to realize, wait, and the description he gives of Mount Taurus is not some mountain in the Armenian mountains or in Turkey, which why would he be there to survey when that was under the solid control of the Ottomans, his arch-enemies. And actually realized that the whole thing was encrypted. He talks about actually having been in a town, it was actually a bustling city he refers to it as, called Kalindra. There was never a town called Kalindra in Turkey or in Armenia. I’ve looked. Believe me, I have hired historians and everything to look for any reference to a place that had the name Kalindra. Which is like Kali, and the word we get out of it is calendar, right? It’s Kali and dragon, right. Kali and dragon. So this Ouroboros, you could think of that as an Ouroboros. The snake biting its tail. A cycle of destruction. So on my last trip to Egypt a few weeks ago, I was hell bent to find Kalindra. Because I knew that it was encrypted. Just like everything else. Mount Taurus, right, he refers to the three peaks of the Mount Taurus as being, you know, situated due North, and that there was equal sunlight on the East and the West every day, and it was built out of the most amazing and resplendent white limestone. Right? And he’s talking about the structure of Mount Taurus. We don’t tend to speak about mountain structure. Right? Structure implies that there was some intelligent design behind it. And so I started looking for this place called Kalindra. And I thought maybe, because it was supposed to be directly due East of of uh of the Nile river, and he had encrypted it calling it the Euphrates river, and so I started asking around what town there might be there with the name calendar. And I found that there’s a town right next to Babylon, it’s literally within a one minute walk of Babylon and the fortress of Babylon, which is called Calendar. Wow. And and this town is actually called Maadi. Maadi, which means calendar appointment. Like a daily calendar. So I was just like whoa unbelievable. Now this is the same place that Jesus and the Holy Family came to visit twice. Not only when Jesus was a small child and escaping from the wrath of Herod looking to kill all firstborn children, but also much later in Jesus’ life when he came back with Mary Magdalene and Peter. But you’re saying Leonardo, evidence from what you found, and you’re making incredible discoveries that people looked at for years but didn’t put together, so thank you for adding to the history of human civilization. And so Leonardo probably as a young man before he became a well-known painter probably went to Cairo got into the Great Pyramid.
Robert Edward Grant
He was in his 30s. Yep, he was in his 30s. He started painting the Last Supper after 1486. Because he was there from 1482 to 1486. All the paintings and drawings after that time are actually encrypted with Egyptian symbology. Right. So I can name at least five paintings right now that we have discovered multiple encryptions that all relate to the Great Pyramid, the Giza Plateau, and Egyptian symbology, and specifically the story of the death, burial, resurrection cycle and reincarnation cycle of Osiris. But not only that, he had such great vision and eyes were able to see the subtle designs on the walls of the King’s Chamber like the shape of the cow and the bull that even thousands of years of visitors or hundreds of years they didn’t notice. But Leonardo, he also saw how the wings of birds would come down. He had such great vision, probably a photographic memory, that he was able to overlay that. Now it makes sense what you’re saying that I didn’t get that part when you’re talking about the Last Supper in relationship to the King’s Chamber, but now with this little story it totally makes sense that that’s exactly and that’s evidence. And that’s a whole movie right there.
Robert Edward Grant
Well, what we found is we found so many petroglyphs now on the walls of the King’s Chamber and we made some massive discoveries uh and maybe I’ll debut some of them um at uh at the Portal to Ascension conference. Which I think would be kind of really cool. Uh one of them actually relates to DNA. And uh a pretty remarkable discovery there. Actually these discoveries are literally going to change I believe the whole narrative of how we look at what the purpose of the pyramid was and and the builders of it even. And the naming of it. You know, while I was there, I’ve been predicting based on Leonardo’s Vitruvian Man. So you have to think about all the paintings having encryption and meaning, there’s always multiple double entendres and everything. And Leonardo was known to do that. Like even later when he built the Chateau Chambord for King Francis I in France that had this unbelievable double helix spiral staircase, right. He built that in literally he designed that just you know months before he died. So he kept it with him all the way through his death at the Chateau d’Amboise which is where he met Anne Boleyn. But basically I’ll see if I might be able to pull it up here. I did some stuff recently that I might not be able to… But you’re saying we are kept in shackles, is that what you’re saying there? Well, or maybe that we have this belief that we are separate um you know from that we are separate from the feminine but actually we are always attached to it. There’s no way that we are not always attached to it. And and that’s basically I think what it’s trying to tell us let’s see if I can find this.
Alan Steinfeld
Well that’s also curious why John the Baptist is such an androgynous looking being, that’s the merging.
Robert Edward Grant
Hieros gamos, right exactly, the holy marriage. And that’s what he’s showing us in all his paintings that we are. This interior, this part of ourselves is divine, it’s the marriage of the divine feminine. Exactly. You know this, I’m going to have to try to find this because I just I went over my two terabyte limit on Apple, so I had to get this other uh while I was gone they had to set up a a uh new hard drive for me for this stuff. But but basically what you’ll find is that this it fits perfectly over it and then the circle of Vitruvian Man perfectly goes into uh it basically is right around the crown of the Mona Lisa. It fits exactly perfect. And his hand fits exactly into that shackle. So it’s almost like he’s separated out himself from the feminine. And he thought he was free because the shackle’s broken, but now he’s inside a box. Right, right. The freedom is actually when we come back together with the feminine. So you know what I’m getting from what you’re saying that Leonardo da Vinci created a narrative throughout his imagery. From Mona Lisa, the Last Supper, the John the Baptist. He’s trying to tell us some deep secret about human existence and geometry, art, consciousness. That’s that’s sort of what I get about what your discoveries have been. Say that again, I lost you for a moment. What I’m getting from your, you know, creative insights is that da Vinci created a narrative of human evolution. Yes. From the measure of man to the union of the divine masculine and feminine. Of opposites, mhm. Right, right. So what does that what do we learn about ourselves now from looking at your uh kind of analysis of da Vinci’s work? I think we learn about ourselves that A, we’re not separate. Uh we are broken into genders and that’s a beautiful thing and really we should learn acceptance over judgment of the differences between the genders. We should celebrate the differences between the genders. And we should realize that they’re all part of a complimentary whole that that leads to a divine uh manifestation and divine ability to realize your own God realization. And and that’s what I that’s what I fundamentally believe.
Alan Steinfeld
That’s yeah, that’s the overview, but in the details of da Vinci’s work with the angles and the numbers, he’s seems like he’s giving us a code to discover something even more about ourselves. What would that be, you think?
Robert Edward Grant
I think first of all as we ascend to higher dimension, one of the first things that we can start to do is remember our past lifetimes. And as we remember our past lifetimes we start finding things that we leave to ourselves through from different dimensions of time to find in our dimension of time. So literally you find encryptions that you left for yourself, messages through time. So I think a lot of these things are like messages through time. I believe he had access to higher dimension of thought and wisdom. And I also believe that’s part and parcel of why he was able to you know draw things like a perfect bicycle from like the early 20th century that didn’t exist for hundreds of years. And and I believe that that’s basically what he’s telling us that the the concept that we have of time as being a fixed and linear construct is really just a persistent perception that we have. And that actually by expanding our perception, we will have a different experience with time all together, that time becomes malleable. And everything is still retrocausal. So as you raise your frequency, the things that were in your world that were tied to your lower frequency uh even in a retrocausal way will disappear and new things will be replacing them. It’s why we have something called the Mandela Effect, I believe.
Alan Steinfeld
So you think, but maybe your work is actually a retrocausal aspect of um what da Vinci planned. So maybe the images of that bowl wasn’t on the wall of the King’s Chamber until you did your work to kind of discover it, and and…
Robert Edward Grant
You know it could be. That’s a that’s a mindblower right there. It could definitely be that. I’ll tell tell you this when I first discovered the Alpha Omega and I was on my way to Egypt and uh and I told a lot of people, I knew I was going to go to Egypt in 2018 and discover something. I didn’t know what it was going to be, but I knew I was going to discover something. And I ended up going to Israel for a week first and then I flew to Egypt and on the flight to Egypt an idea popped in my head. And I drew Alpha Omega in my notebook all the way there on the airplane. It was in my consciousness, solidly. When I stood in the King’s Chamber with one of my friends laying in the sarcophagus and I looked down at the rim I had a flashback memory of being there when that Alpha Omega was pressed into the rose granite. Not chipped, but pressed into the rose granite. And I looked down to the exact spot that I remembered it in and there was an Alpha Omega that had never been seen before. So the question is… And then I grabbed the Egyptologist, I said have you guys seen this before? And the first thing they said was, Mohamed Ibrahim looked at me and he said, did you make this? I’m like of course I didn’t make it like when was I going to like I just chipped it out right now. It’s perfectly 5.605 inches which is the square root of pi times 10 and the room perimeter is is 31.4159 meters exactly. So pi times 10 meters. And and I was like, yeah, no, I did not chip this out. Come on. So trust me, I’ve gone back many times and looked at photographs of the pyramid and of the walls of the bull and the cow that my my wife discovered and the birds that my assistant discovered. Uh and now we’ve discovered literally petroglyphs cover all of the walls of all of the pyramids. So our last trip, uh and you will be mindblown to see this stuff. Literally mindblown. And this time for the first time, not only did we see DNA with nucleotide pairs and everything on the walls, right? So uh this is on my website. And this is uh you can watch this video.
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah, Alpha Omega, um, you can just make this bigger, yeah full screen, yes, good, hit click that, yep. Okay. This is the Alpha Omega on the rim of the sarcophagus.
Robert Edward Grant
So it’s not easy to see until you get the lighting just right way. So here’s the A and here’s the Omega.
Alan Steinfeld
Right next to it, I see that. I see it.
Robert Edward Grant
And no one has seen that before thousands and thousands of tourists in that, in that King’s Chamber.
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah. Exactly. Is it closer to the far wall that or the wall closer to the entrance there where? It’s the far wall. Right. There seems like there’s a block on the far wall, I know.
Robert Edward Grant
Yeah there’s like a false block right next to the pyramid I mean right next to the sarcophagus. But I mean you can see this. If you know exactly where to place the light, but I’m telling you I’ve been in there many times, even for me going in there without having the light in the right way, it is difficult to see this. Right.
Neil Gaur
So what makes you feel that this is Arcturian language? What is the connection there?
Robert Edward Grant
Because the Arcturian mothership has been reported and and been the subject of a few books even, to have the Alpha Kai Omega symbol as its like logo on the side.
Neil Gaur
So could all of the Greek language be derived from Arcturian or you think…
Robert Edward Grant
You know it’s hard to say but look, Alpha Kai Omega and Alpha Omega is so old. Um you even in ancient Egypt it’s older than anything that you could imagine from the standpoint of hieroglyphics, it’s far far older. The three most old, three oldest places in Egypt are uh the the Great Pyramid plateau, the Giza plateau, Saqqara, and the Osirion at Abydos where the flower of life is. And not only are the flower of life on the wall, but there’s like literally covering all the walls on the pillars at Abydos, the flower of life. But there also we found a very large Alpha Kai Omega that we discovered on the, you know on the wall at Abydos, which was, you know really shocking for us, because we didn’t expect that. And now we found Alpha Kai Omega on every sarcophagus that we have investigated. Like every one. There’s it’s as if they they repurposed all of these sarcophagi from a much older civilization. Maybe. And I have no other explanation for it than that other than we just know that they’re all there. And it definitely happened that way.
Neil Gaur
Does this rewrite ancient history? I mean you’re a student of history, right?
Robert Edward Grant
Yeah. I mean I love everything you’re sharing Robert, because this is kind of information I’m attracted to is really full circle awareness, right? Like to me the word ascension doesn’t just mean some spiritual tools and vibration. It’s everything, ancient civilizations, the mathematics, the science of the cosmos. You know, and you’re really bringing it all into what it all means. These are all different facets that we’re bringing together in order to piece together those pieces of the puzzle, like you showed those different fractals. And from all those avenues we get a greater understanding of who we are and where we came from and what we’re here to do, right? So there was one other thing that you shared that really stood out for me and you said our distant past is also our future. And to me this kind of feels like you’re saying maybe that we’ve been incarnated into these lower dimensions by beings that we eventually become as we evolve into our future. So what are your thoughts on that? What does that mean? I think that’s exactly right. I don’t think that there, I think the funny joke on all of us is that this is not about blaming anyone else, I think it’s really what we chose. And you know, one of my favorite Chinese proverbs is the man who blames others has a long way to go in his journey. The man who blames himself is halfway there. And the man who blames no one has arrived.
Alan Steinfeld
Mm hmm.
Robert Edward Grant
I think there’s deep wisdom in this. So let me just show you this because I promised on this I wanted to show you this related to the Mona Lisa. And you can see here, the same thing, replace this on top of, right, you actually get… sorry I just want to get my head around this correctly, Robert, the Omega is kind of pointing inward, um it’s not pointing downward. You see it right here, it goes right over his wrist.
Alan Steinfeld
The Omega.
Robert Edward Grant
Yeah, and it’s an Omega, the letter C is an omega shape, it’s the exact same shape as the one on the pyramid.
Alan Steinfeld
That’s the beginning and the end.
Robert Edward Grant
So when you match the Vitruvian Man’s fingers to the width of the Mona Lisa and you rest his feet on the same place that her hands are resting, then the head is perfectly inscribed within the Vitruvian Man circle. Do you see that?
Alan Steinfeld
That is an incredible discovery that changes art history I say it. It makes Leonardo’s paintings a narrative of of conscious awakening in a sense.
Robert Edward Grant
Indeed it does, which is why we’ve all been so enigmatically intrigued by it. And look also at the Eye of Horus, the left eye of Mona Lisa, it ends up exactly at the crown chakra of Vitruvian Man. Oh, yeah. You see that? Like literally right there. How beautiful is that? That’s like mind boggling. And you know, I think it’s it’s such an amazing amazing thing that we can see now. And you know another thing that points us to Osiris, not only the 14 cuts, but when we realize as well that we can take the Salvator Mundi and what are these three stars? And look at this, the reflection of his hand is actually the Great Pyramid. Oh. You can see the ridge line on it as well. And then those three stars happen to match exactly the top three stars of Orion.
Alan Steinfeld
Belt, the not the belt stars.
Robert Edward Grant
Not the belt stars, not the belt stars. The top three stars of Orion, right, which is Betelgeuse, Mintaka and I forget the other, Bellatrix, I think is the other one. And so what about those three stars? Is he pointing to our destiny or…
Robert Edward Grant
No, he’s basically saying that this whole Giza Plateau, right, is we already know that the position of the of the three pyramids is the belt stars, and what he’s pointing to is that this is all about Orion.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, it’s all about Orion. Here’s another way to look at it right here. Ah, I see. Yeah, I see those stars right there. Yeah.
Robert Edward Grant
Wow. And what kind of triangle is that making this specific triangle too? Yeah, this is the top three stars of Orion. So you could basically put, I guess I thought I had that. Hang on a second, maybe it’s this one. Well, you know you have so much to share with our audience in San Diego, Robert. This is this is just getting me really excited about the discoveries you’re going to continually make about the stars, the history of art, consciousness, um, who we are, the divine nature. I mean you’re… Absolutely. Look, here we go. Can you see this right here? Here’s Orion. Those are the top three stars of Orion. It fits perfectly right on top of this thing that looks like the pyramid which is his hand. It’s even got a ridge line up here in the pyramid, right? I mean it’s pretty clear. And the whole thing here is about Christ consciousness and achieving the X, the Shen. So you can see the other stars all fall outside of the ball, right, they’re like right on the rim on the edge, so you just wouldn’t be able to see them. But basically those are the top three stars of Orion. Again telling us the connection back to Orion. And the the man with 14 cuts. All of…
Neil Gaur
Yeah and I’m sure you have some some, maybe we can talk about it another time, but I’m sure you have some opinions on why they’re pointing to Orion. Right? What the connection is there.
Robert Edward Grant
Yeah, because Orion represents, and we found that on the pyramid walls as well, Orion represents this death, burial, resurrection and reincarnation cycle that mankind went into. Right, and that’s really what it’s all about. And now it’s about us, here’s another way to look at this, you know Mona Lisa’s eye shows up right on top of Vitruvian Man’s head. And the space that fits between her eye and the top is exactly the moon. Oh. Wow. Beautiful. It’s beyond art, it’s like a an activation code just by looking at this art. I feel like it activates us.
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah, it’s just like geometry does the same thing. It’s and here’s that same shackle right here, you know and you can see there’s a faint outline of a letter A here as well. All of his paintings and works are encrypted and this was the story he’s telling. Here’s the Alpha Omega on the rim of the sarcophagus. If we look at the Last Supper, the exact position where Jesus is sitting and his shape is the alpha. It’s the shape of alpha. So here’s a letter A right here. And then on the garment of of Mary Magdalene you can see the faint outline where I’m tracing right here of an Omega. Wow. I want to have a whole conversation with you just about the sacred geometry between the Moon, the Sun, and the Earth. I mean that’s something that we can go into. And how that’s an Alpha Kai Omega relationship.
Robert Edward Grant
Just like Vitruvian Man is. If you found the faint outline of the alpha on his left wrist and his right wrist has the Omega that’s broken open. The broken omega, the broken feminine. And and basically that’s that’s what we’re discovering here is how to reunite and find this divinity within which is this is a a statue that I made, a as a sculptor, right. And I didn’t even try to match the proportions and you can see it’s pretty it’s not that far off in the face especially is pretty amazing how how close it is to Vitruvian Man’s face. Look at that.
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah. So I mean I know we can talk to you for hours, but what do you want to talk about at the um conference coming up in San Diego? Some of this stuff or what what would you like to share about your recent work there?
Robert Edward Grant
You know I think that um all of this is just pointing us to remember who we are. And and I think that’s why as soon as we start to do that and transcend duality then the extraterrestrials that are already here are going to be very much available to our perception. Yeah. I mean it’s about transcending duality, but there’s something so sophisticated and deep about these designs that it feels like codes. It feels like ways of activating the neural networks to perceive those levels of of transcendence.
Robert Edward Grant
And maybe that’s what your work is about. Yeah, absolutely. You know, I think that the geometry is the most powerful aspect of this. You know one of the most recent things that I had discovered and I just posted on it last night in fact, uh is what I’ll show you now and it relates to the central geometric and architectural plan of the Giza Plateau, which derives all three pyramids simply with starting with a simple circle and a line of the same length. So circumference of a circle of the same length of a line, which is matching that same circle and rod that you see in all of the ancient Sumerian uh reliefs, right, and petroglyphs. And and you’ll see that this actually becomes some form of a code that we can understand how the pyramid is actually built too. So just starting with this circle and a line those are both 432 in length, from there I just put another circle on top of it. Now I have the Great Pyramid. That is exactly the proportions to derive the exact measurements in geometry of the Great Pyramid, and to prove it to you I’ll just draw the 11th prime square, right, which has the base of the Great Pyramid as it’s exactly 11. And this corresponds exactly with the 11 proportion of the base to 7 for the height of the Great Pyramid. It matches exactly to five decimal places the value of pi. Now from this 432 geometry simply drawn just starting with a circle and a line, we can now draw the other pyramids. And the way we draw it is we take another line of identical length 432 and we lay it right across touching the edges of the circle and of exactly precisely with the precise slope angle of the pyramid. But it doesn’t just stop there, it now goes to Khafre as well. The second pyramid can be constructed without any measurement. Just using the simple method that I posted up last night. Is that 51 degrees, the angle of the… It’s 51.853974 degrees. It’s perfect. And that allows you to square the circle. So this square has the exact same perimeter value as the circumference of this circle because it’s the half base. And from that, you can also find Khafre pyramid in proportion to Khufu without any measurement. I can I can draw all of this with only compass and straight edge. I don’t need any measurements on a on a ruler to be able to to derive this. And… I just heard that 51.3 degrees is the structure of bone, you know, the angles of the calcium in the bones is at 51 degrees. That makes sense, you know.
Robert Edward Grant
Yeah, I mean that that could well I’m not aware of that as an angle but I’ll I’ll have a look at the the structure of the calcium angle. But basically what this does is, you know, the three different pyramids have uh three different degrees. The The Great Pyramid is 51.85397. You can see it right here on the right. Uh the Khafre pyramid is 53.13 and the Menkaure pyramid is 51.34. And those correspond exactly with musical ratios. So this is a, in if you know music, this is a major third, a five over four Pythagorean interval. And then you have a a perfect fifth uh that sits inside of this and a perfect fourth because it’s inverse of the perfect fourth which is 4 over 3 is going to be uh, you know, exactly the uh the the perfect fifth as well, right, which is 3 over 2. So half of this four. It it inverse is the other direction. And then the Great Pyramid becomes 2 over pi. So we’ve got 5, 4, 3, 2, pi. So pi is being another way of looking at the circle or one. So 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. You’ve got the tetractys and these are all musical intervals that exist are available in the Great Pyramid, Khafre Pyramid, and Menkaure just in their base to their height ratios. It’s all musical intervals. It’s like the rainbow spectrum of light and sound is what we’re looking at when we look at the Giza Plateau.
Alan Steinfeld
It’s a whole other conversation, but I’m sure you have a theory about the bent pyramid and the different angles that are happening there.
Robert Edward Grant
Oh yeah, yeah. We’ve analyzed that to a very, very high degree. Um, you know, the upper angle of the bent pyramid is 43 point, it’s 43 degrees 22 minutes. And that’s 432. And 432 is the foundational basis of the the measurements that we use to build not only the pyramids in Giza, but the pyramids in Mexico as well. The base of the pyramid of the Sun in Mexico is identical to the base of the Great Pyramid in Egypt. 756 feet.
Alan Steinfeld
Robert, let’s go into some of this deep stuff at the conference that Neil’s putting. Neil has to jump off but I I really could talk to you for days about all this because the work, and and how do people find you and your books and um your work?
Robert Edward Grant
Um you can find me on Instagram. I have books on Amazon. Um, I’m very happy and lucky that my book called Philomath is, has been still the number, this weekend it was still, after two years of being released, the number one book in number theory on Amazon. And uh and also in geometry, general geometry. I have a new book that just came out called Polymath which is really about all of these it it analyzes all the impossible geometric forms and they’re not supposed to be possible at all, and uses it as a as a reference point for mankind ascending beyond what he believed was possible. And and what he and she believed was possible. And you can go to uh my Instagram page, which is just Robert Edward Grant on Instagram and on my website is the same RobertEdwardGrant.com.
Alan Steinfeld
I can’t wait to see you at uh San Diego because uh there’s gonna be a lot of brilliant people there who understand what you’re talking about. Robert Schoch, JJ and Desiree Hurtak, uh Michael Cremo. These are all investigators into the ancient knowledge. So we’re going to have an incredible conversation about ancient civilizations there. Neil, anything else you want to say about the conference?
Neil Gaur
Yeah and you also going to be on the panel with um the the ancient history panel with all with Hurtaks, Linda Moulton Howe and everything. So you know, maybe we can go deeper into these specific questions on the panel as well.
Robert Edward Grant
Oh happy to. Totally happy to. So uh very excited for this conference and looking forward to meeting you guys in person.
Neil Gaur
Thank you appreciate you brother. Thank you for everything you’re doing.
Robert Edward Grant
Thank you.
Alan Steinfeld
Love this conversation, I’m gonna watch it again because there is so much in there. Oh yeah, it’s dense, it’s dense. So uh but yeah definitely Codex is another thing I wanted to say is that if you’re interested in these types of things, you can find me on Gaia on Codex, which is done remarkably well and uh I’m really thrilled but I think you’re right. This story is about to go really, really big. I feel that.
Alan Steinfeld
Thank you for your time. Thank you.
Robert Edward Grant
Thank you.