New Realities recorded July 3, 2007
Summary
Alan Steinfeld interviews Samuel Anthony Ettaro, National Media Director for Aaron Russo’s organization, on BBS Radio. They discuss the concept of brainwashing by mainstream media, the influence of the military-industrial complex, and the importance of awakening to a new spiritual and political reality. They touch upon the documentary “America: Freedom to Fascism,” the implications of the 9/11 attacks, the erosion of civil liberties through legislation like the Patriot Act, and the need for grassroots activism to challenge the status quo and create a more conscious and free society.
Transcript
Alan Steinfeld
how to become more conscious beings. How to live in a more livable planet. I present programs that invite the listener to look at their behaviors, their states of mind, in order to have and create a better planet, a more open and free society. And a lot of my past programs I’ve been focusing on different spiritual realities, but this, today’s program is really about the political realities that face us right now here in the early 21st century. And my name’s Alan Steinfeld and I’ve been hosting this program on BBS Radio for the past three months since March, and I’ve had a bunch of very exciting programs. But tonight’s show will be a whole new departure. Tonight’s guest is Samuel Anthony Ettaro. And Samuel, are you there?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Yes, sir. How are you this evening?
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. Yes, and how would you introduce yourself? You said you’re also the public relations person for Aaron Russo?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well, I would consider myself an internet Renaissance kind of guy. I do a lot of different things. My primary function in regards to social activism nationally is as the National Media Director for Aaron Russo’s organizations that he started, which is, for those of you don’t know, Aaron is the Hollywood producer that made America: Freedom to Fascism.
Alan Steinfeld
Right, which is a great movie. Let’s get into that a little later. Tell me what else do you do?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well, I manage national media and do PR and established a national media core of citizen broadcasters to go out and start filming news independently. Myself, professionally, I’m actually a television producer here in the state of Pennsylvania. I have a career education television show, which is called Futures Fast Forward, that airs on a Fox affiliate here. I’m an educator. I give speeches. I give talks. I give seminars.
Alan Steinfeld
On what subject is your main focus?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
I’m sorry, there’s kind of an odd delay here. I’ll get the hang of it.
Alan Steinfeld
No, no, I know it’s a little hot. I hear you pretty well, but no, what’s your major topic for your lectures and speeches and talk? What do you focus on?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well, there’s a couple different things. If it’s activist oriented, it’s in regards to social activism and the responsibility that we have as Americans to keep our government in check and get involved in the process and what we can do about it. And then there’s the aspect of what I do professionally, which is focusing on making proper career choices and helping young people and their parents understand exactly what it means to be an X, Y, or a Z. How many kids go off to college and find out three years into it, this is not what I wanted to do at all, what I thought I wanted to do. So my focus in that regard is career education, to make proper choices. And then there’s an overlap between those in regards to digital media, because as a professional consultant, I work with school districts and businesses and individuals who are very interested in utilizing new digital media tools to enhance their business or social networks or whatever. But then I also cross over and I have the same seminars that I offer specifically to the activist communities and how do the guys from We Are Change do it. How are people out there with little $300 camcorders and shoving them in the face of these politicians and then taking it at home and putting together a little Google, YouTube video and lighting up the internet. And I show people how to do that, make the most out of the latest digital gear that’s available. It’s pretty cool stuff, man.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, that would be great to talk about. Because those three fields of interest and professionalism really do come together. I mean, especially if we focus on, let’s start with the career coaching. I mean, if you’re coaching high school kids and college kids to come out into the world and they have to come into a real world instead of the world of a media that we’ve been deceived into thinking is the real world, you know what I’m saying?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Amen. Yeah, absolutely. And I see that so clearly in especially even in the schools that I work in. I mean, the kids are so immersed in this world of violence and propaganda that it’s for a guy like me who has removed myself from it and unplugged from it. I killed my TV seven years ago when I had my little girl and I said, I don’t want her subject to this crap, so we just turned it off. And we still rent movies and DVDs and we still have the internet, but we’re in control of what we watch. So for a fellow like me, to see the kids these days, just they cannot grasp what is wrong or the potential negative impacts that that are on them playing these new virtual video games and these war games that are so realistic. And then we, you know, then we now come to find out that are actually researched and developed and brought to market and sometimes in conjunction with our national defense mechanisms and these big companies that are promoting, you know, they’re training these killers of tomorrow. You know, I mean, that’s just one example and it’s really every now and then like I’ve got these kids that I work with there from a couple small towns here in Pennsylvania, I’m straight Punxsutawney actually, where Punxsutawney Phil is.
Alan Steinfeld
Right, where the Groundhog is.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
The Groundhog. Right. I actually asked what I did professionally, I actually made the first ever, ever in 118 year history of Groundhog Day, I made the first ever officially sanctioned by the inner circle, the guys with the top hats, you know that you see on Letterman and on TV all the time.
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah, and in the movie. I love Groundhog. Isn’t it an amazing movie?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Oh yeah, and I made the very first ever sanctioned documentary about Groundhog Day. The writer of that movie Groundhog Day, Danny Rubin saw my documentary and he said, man, he goes, it was amazing. I had no idea the impact that that we had on that holiday by making that movie. That’s kind of, that was flattering. But anyway, back to this. These kids, some of these kids here get it, man. And to see them wake up and to be awake at 16, 17 years old, you know, and to see them trapped in this social structure and this lattice that they seem to be trapped in is really, it’s encouraging, but it’s also sad at the same time, you know?
Alan Steinfeld
Right. So let’s talk about the government-controlled media and what… no, but before that, let’s get underneath that and see.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
You’re opening up a can of worms, man.
Alan Steinfeld
I know, and that’s fine because this is a great place to open that can. And also underneath that, the manipulation of consciousness that we are all being sucked into by mainstream media and politics embedded together. I mean, we are being brainwashed and conditioned to think the world is a certain way that it obviously isn’t. So talk about the brainwashing and how it…
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well, since I woke up many years ago. I mean, for me, it was the first Gulf War and around that time, the research that I was doing on the first Gulf War, the subsequent wars in Yugoslavia, putting the pieces together in regards to the large business components of these things and the, you know, over the years, you know, seeing the Bush family and their ties to, you know, Daddy Bush going on ahead than to chair the Carlyle Group became in short order one of the largest defense contractors in the world. You know, that ties of, the big thing that woke me up was the most clear thing, still, General Electric owning NBC. I mean, here we go.
Alan Steinfeld
Why is that a big deal?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well, well, I’m sitting there watching Tom Brokaw tell me about the Gulf War and what a bad guy Saddam Hussein was and how we had to, you know, all the justification for all the things that we had to do in order to remove him when ten years before, of course, he was our friend. I mean, that hypocrisy really struck with me. But then I’m sitting there going wait a minute, this guy’s making millions of dollars to sit here in New York City and tell me and feed this propaganda to me, this company line to me, while his mother company is one of the largest defense contractors in the world. You know, I’m reading on the news on the internet how they how they just launched some massive new nuclear submarine that they built for some country in Europe and I’m sitting.
Alan Steinfeld
I didn’t really GE makes defense weapons. I didn’t realize that.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Oh my God, they make engines, turbine engines for jets, components for nuclear submarines, missiles, systems. Man, absolutely.
Alan Steinfeld
So they’re in the war industry. They need…
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
They need war in order to generate their profits.
Alan Steinfeld
They need a war. So do you think Tom Brokaw actually knew that or do you think he’s just brain, mind controlled himself? I mean…
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
I don’t know. I have no idea. I’m not going to speculate as to whether, you know, somebody that is in that position is necessarily has a benevolent or a malevolent motive behind them. But, you know, I mean very clearly I can look at somebody like a George Bush or a Dick Cheney and say come on, it’s pretty obvious. But, you know, a broadcaster living the life of a, living the life of a star and really believing he’s doing a good thing. And, you know, who knows. I mean, I don’t know.
Alan Steinfeld
But he’s being controlled. I mean, why doesn’t he wake up and say, hey…
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well, what do you know what, what do you think it is? I mean, you know, you hear a lot these days about this cognitive this cognitive dissonance thing, you know, that people know the truth, but they simply want to disassociate themselves from it and they and they just won’t believe it. I mean, or or they or people like them knowingly on the take and you know taking the hand of Satan so to speak, willingly.
Alan Steinfeld
No, I do think all, most of us 95% of the American public is brainwashed. Is actually mind-controlled by the media itself and believes what the media tells us. You know, I, I’m listening to Dick Cheney and I’m seeing, wow, this guy sounds logical. I mean, I know he’s evil and all that, but the way he says it and the authority that he says that, I feel my own need for, for a stable reality to come in and and want to believe the guy, even though it’s so obvious that he’s lying. I mean, there was a great YouTube thing where he, he’s, he’s caught in his lie and he says, no, I never said that. He actually, and it two seconds before the newscaster, I don’t know where it is, but he’s saying the same thing like oh yeah, looks likely that, you know, they had weapons of mass destruction. Someone says, you said it looked likely. And he goes, no, I never said that. And it’s like even though I’ve heard him lie two seconds ago, I want to believe him. I mean, we are so gullible. We are so thought-controlled and fed bubblegum and cotton candy all day that we don’t know what reality is. We are so overshadowed by the media in terms of what reality is. That’s why I call this show New Realities, that we don’t even know where to wake up to. And even the We Are Change, even the 9/11 truth movement, they are also using the same media to bring us those opinions. So it’s like someone caught between these media worlds doesn’t know who to believe, they don’t know what’s true anymore.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
You know, I’m glad you mentioned that because that’s something that I struggle with and I actually had people say that to me. They’re saying, Sam, you know, you realize while we believe that you’re fighting the good fight, we believe in your cause, we believe you’re a good man with the right intentions, but realize that you’re utilizing the same in many ways, the same techniques and talents and tactics that the enemy is using. And you know, it’s that whole black magic, white magic thing, you know, is there such a thing? I mean is it, do you fight fire with fire or is there another way? I mean, who is to check.
Alan Steinfeld
That’s a really good point. Well, it is a good point and I don’t know what the answer is because…
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
I don’t know what the answer is either. I know, I know this, man. I know this. I believe in God and I believe that God put me on this planet and that at 38 years old, I have found that which it is I believe is my life’s calling in my talents and my energy level and the connections that I’ve made, not that I’ve made, but that have come to me. All of this sort of, all of these weird synchronicities and everything that brought me to where I am to be able to do what I’m doing, I feel that that’s what I’m supposed to do. So, you know, I think,
Alan Steinfeld
What is your life calling? If you could sum it up in like a sentence, what would you say your life calling is?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Boy, that’s an interesting question. I would say I would say waking people up, waking people up. Including myself, I mean.
Alan Steinfeld
Waking them up to what, though? Into what?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Hmm, well, to the fact that… boy, that’s interesting. I mean I know the answer here, but I gotta think of how to put it because it’s more of a, it’s more of an internal feeling that I have than something that I can just blah, you know? But I think it’s I think it’s what you alluded to earlier, which is that we are living in the matrix, we are living in an illusion. And that our perception of that illusion is dictating, of course, you know, how we’re going about day to day. I’m not pretending to know, nor am I putting forth what I believe are the answers. What I’m trying to do is to let people know just to shake it off, to shake the fog off, and to seek and find the answers for themselves. I think that’s the most important thing, you know. And anything that I can do as an educator and as a motivator to help present opportunities and material to them that may help them in that process without dictating or preaching to them per se. You know, that’s fine line. That’s fine line.
Alan Steinfeld
I understand it is. You want to sort of pull the wool off their eyes, and you want to show them that there’s more, yeah, to the world than what they’ve been brainwashed into believing.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Yeah. And what that is, what they find once that wool is off, is entirely up to them. I don’t, I don’t want to try to necessarily, I mean, I would love it if they would wake up to some of the truths that I believe to be truth, such as, you know, you alluded to 9/11 and and where we’re at with with our with the big business, you know, this fascist corporate model that we have now that we call our government and big business and the defense industry controlling everything. All this stuff, I mean, these are these are illusions that have been cast upon the masses that I believe that I can see through, and many, many, many people do see through. I’d love for people to wake up to that. But maybe it’s something just as simple as, holy crap, the garbage that I buy at the grocery store that they’re calling vegetables isn’t doing anything to give me nourishment. So I’m going to make a garden at home and learn about organic gardening. Maybe that’s what they wake up to. I don’t know.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, you know who does a really good job is Michael Moore’s “Sicko”. I think is a great. Have you seen “Sicko”?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Haven’t seen it yet.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, he really does wake people up to that big business doesn’t care about people’s health. Even though they call themselves a health insurance company, they are there to make money, they will deny people operations and medication because you know they lose money if they have to pay out, so they’re in the business of not taking care of people, which he makes very clearly, but of making money. And that is waking a lot of people up. I mean, he is a great service to humanity. I mean, you know you know, I think he’s doing an amazing thing. He’s one little big guy from Michigan and he’s showing, he’s showing what corporate the face, the ugly face of corporate America that’s controlling our lives and as like you said, is embedded in government creating artificial wars to make money.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Right, period. Well, you know, I think it’s more than about making money, and I think this is what’s so insidious about it and what really frightens me. I, I’m a big believer that you know a lot of these folks are being driven by very negative, demonic forces and they want to control. They, it’s about control. Money is the mechanism by which they can control, but it’s about control, man.
Alan Steinfeld
You think Cheney, Cheney is about… he’s like, you’re like Hitler you’re saying. It’s like.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Absolutely. Absolutely, and I won’t, absolutely. That’s why I’m in this fight, man. That’s why I’m, I sit and I look at my little girl and I say, there is no way that I’m going to someday stand before my creator and explain that I was too preoccupied or too busy or too otherwise cowardly to fight against this blatant evil that is attempting to enslave my family and her family’s family and future generations in some sort of electronic prison control grid where we as free people supposedly are surveilled and watched and harassed and brainwashed 24/7.
Alan Steinfeld
We already are.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well, yeah. well, well, well, well, well, I still have some level, I still have some level of freedom in that I can, I’m able to get on the airwaves and speak with you about this without my, without a microchip in my brain exploding and killing me. You know what I mean?
Alan Steinfeld
Listen man, we can’t roll the clock back. We can’t roll the clock back. But what’s the point? I mean, what’s it doing? I mean, it’s great that we can and it’s an illusion of freedom, but is that really is that stopping the war? Is that feeding people? No, we’re just sort of masturbating. I mean, you know, it’s like, are we really doing anything because we think we have the freedom to speak out. The government says, okay, we’ll let these, these characters speak out, but what are we doing? What’s Aaron Russo doing? I mean, he’s started to do some. Is anything happening because people are speaking out? No, the government keeps going along and saying yes, yes. I mean they just, it’s an illusion I think speaking out. It’s great. There’s people protesting the war. Great. Although that might not happen anymore. But you know is it real, is it really making an effect? I don’t mean to be negative, but you know you can be happy speaking out. The government says, let these kids speak out. Who cares? No one’s listening. No one’s gonna do anything. So what can we do?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well, I think that number one change takes time. I mean the fact is as you said, we collectively, although there are many people that are awake, collectively we’re still, and the vast majority of people are still asleep and controlled. So recognizing that, the battle is going to take time to win. I mean a war is not won in one battle and we are in one battle with one particular administration and, you know, these these forces that go back a couple generations back to World War Two and out of Nazi Germany, you know, the Prescott Bush and the ties back there to the, to the, to the Nazi ideal. You know, this goes back and, and this battle’s been going on for a while and no, it’s nothing new and I’ve heard that said as well, you know. It’s the way it’s always been, it’s the way it’s always gonna be. Now the thing is, here’s the difference. We’ve reached a point now where imagine if Napoleon had had the VeriChip technology and geostatellites at their control. And, you know, imagine if Hitler would have had those technologies at his control and at his command. These evil types of people have always been around. This battle is not going to go away. We’re not going to, there’s not going to be a day where we’re going to be able to sit back and rest on our laurels and say that we’ve created this utopia and evil, evil has been vanquished and we won. That’s not gonna happen. And I’m not in this for that reason.
Alan Steinfeld
I think there, I mean, I personally think there could be a day where there’s not, I don’t even call it evil. I mean, we could split, I think it’s ignorance and it’s ignorance that, you know, the thing that it, the idea that if you are selfish you’ll be happier. There’s greater happiness I think in sharing in a social network, socialism, you know health benefits for all. There’s greater happiness in a society where we care about people as opposed to corporations hoarding all the money for themselves and giving people, you know, little pennies to get by. I mean,
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
So you don’t believe in evil?
Alan Steinfeld
I don’t really, I think it’s ignorance. I mean, you can call it evil, and that’s fine. I don’t think it’s evil. I think there are people who think that selfishness is something that they want or because they haven’t seen that it’s it’s it’s more beautiful to share. You know, maybe that’s a naive way of looking. But I think…
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well, I mean, I I think that there are some people at that point in life, but then there are the people that do, that did recognize that in that it’s, that it is more beautiful to share, but they don’t care because they enjoy, they enjoy causing suffering and hurt upon others and they enjoy eliminating people that they believe are below them and controlling them and enjoy that sort of death and destruction and the policies that bring those about. That to me is evil and unfortunately I think that’s what we have sitting in the White House. Yes.
Alan Steinfeld
When you say enjoy, I’m I’m losing you a little bit. Do you hear me? Hello?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Yeah, no, we’re there man. I just heard a little bit of static. Are you there?
Alan Steinfeld
I lost you a little bit back. Wait, wait, wait, hello.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. Oh, I hear you now. You hear me?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Yes, sir. Hello. Who’s that on the line? Oh, maybe it’s the producer. Someone blowing into the phone?
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, no, that was me because I couldn’t hear you for a second. Do you hear me?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Oh. I can hear you fine. The line, the connection sounds good, sir.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, it sounds good to you. But okay, I’ll just go with it because you sound a little like you got faded out a little bit. But when you say that, they enjoy doing that to people. I don’t know it’s one very low level of enjoyment. I think when you’ve experienced the higher realms you see what true joy looks like, and that’s why I call that level ignorance, you know? For that reason because they haven’t understood what true joy is about. If they did, they wouldn’t want, their joy would be out of creating things. I guess some people get joy out of, when they are functioning on such a low level, there really is no joy in you know hurting other people. I mean…
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
I believe that and you believe that, but I do believe in evil and I believe that people, there are people in this world that do recognize what you’re saying, that do face that joy and then turn their back on it willingly. That in my mind is the definition of evil. Seeing heaven, seeing perfection, seeing beauty, seeing love, and willingly turning your back on it and then doing everything you…
Alan Steinfeld
See that’s where I disagree with you because I disagree because when you truly see that, and you truly feel that, there would be no reason to do anything else. I mean, this is my experience.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well no, there’s no reason there’s no reason if you’re if you are a healthy individual that isn’t psychopathic. No, there wouldn’t be. But if you have a defect that causes you, you know, to act out in these ways, whether it’s a spiritual defect or physiological defect in regards to how your brain simply fires, you know, I mean, there are sociopaths in the world, man. You know?
And to make that conscious decision to do these horrible things, I don’t think that can be so simply, you know, boiled down to just simple ignorance. I think it’s a conscious decision.
Alan Steinfeld
Well ignorance as a spiritual as a spiritual evolutionary phase. I think we’ve all passed through those stages in lifetimes. This is just my opinion of lifetimes of evolution we’ve had to experience all these things. And now I think we’re at a planetary point where it’s a sort of breaking point, where we’ll either, those that choose to share and be a part and connect to each other are actually creating a new world. While those that choose to not are creating.This hell world that we…
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
No, let me, you know, you’re bringing up a good point here. Let me throw something at you because I think maybe where you might be going here is a friend of mine said the other day, you know, in regards to what I’m doing with national activism. He says, you know, again, I don’t doubt your intentions, I think what the points that you’re making are true, but we need to be focusing all of our energies on the positive. You know, if you feed the monster up with by playing into the fear, by getting other people whipped up and afraid and angry, then that’s what we’re going to get more of. And I understand that, right, I understand all that and as a spiritual being, I’m a I’m a I guess a nouveau Christian, I’m not a churchy Christian. But but I understand that whole thing of as you sow, so shall you reap.
Alan Steinfeld
But the problem with religion and what you know, Christians are a great…Well, you don’t have to call it anything. It’s a connection. A greater, a greater essence. But the problem with formalized religion is when you demonize another being like George Bush, that you make them less than human, which makes it okay to denigrate them.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well, no, no, no, I’m not suggesting he’s less than human, because in my belief, my belief is that he that the nature of good and evil is in all of us. And he’s not less than human. He is human. He’s a human that is turning his back on the potential to use his gifts that he’s been given by Creator to make this world a better place and instead is using it to make the world a worse place. Therefore, he’s enacting evil upon us. Now, that said, here’s the analogy that I used to my friend. I said, yes, I understand that logic. However, don’t you think at some point in society you get to a point where you have no choice but either to run away or fight back. Case in point, suppose I’m upstairs. Right, you’re upstairs, I don’t know, do you have a family?
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Okay. You’re upstairs, laying there in the middle of the night, and you hear somebody kicking your door in downstairs. And you hear them cussing and swearing, and they’re very clearly some whack job on crack. And, you know, do you put the covers over your head and just lay there and think fuzzy, warm thoughts and believe that they’re not, you know, well maybe they’re maybe they’re not being malevolent toward my family and they’re not going to come up here and slaughter us all in our sleep, or do you get up and go down there and fight? You know, I think we’re at that point. I think we’re at that point as a nation that we are, we are in danger of being mass, we’re talking Hitler-level atrocities happening to you know.
Alan Steinfeld
I know. I mean, I’d heard about the 800 empty concentration camps waiting for protesters to come in, protesting that they’ll be carted away. I mean, I agree, I mean, just getting. Getting back to your original point, I think the people that do those things, do the Hitler-type actions, are ignorant of the true spiritual opportunities that we have as human beings. That’s all. I mean, we can call it evil, I choose to call it ignorance of our true potential as loving divine beings. That’s all, you know. And I think the political realities that you’re saying and to defend oneself is a natural response, we need to defend ourselves and we need to take action to protect our freedom, of course.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well let me ask you, in that regard, knowing clearly we’re both we’re both, you know, I gotta tell you, by the way, I’m really enjoying this conversation. I love talking about stuff like this. I really do.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh good. Well, I’d love to mix the political and spiritual because the two aren’t separate. I mean, I tend to avoid…
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
They’re not separate at all. They’re completely intertwined.
Alan Steinfeld
And that’s unfortunately part of our problem. Well, it’s unfortunate. Unfortunately, because you know, life is one. It’s a oneness. You know, I tend to avoid political discussions because it tends to be very angry and one sided without taking in the part that you’re including, which are these higher spiritual realities that combine all of life together, you know?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Right. Yes, I do. Yes, I do. Yeah. I mean that’s fine. The problem is, the problem is when as you say it turns selfish and self-serving. You know? And then people feel that they have to exercise their ability to control others and turn to mechanisms of mind control and violence against fellow man in order to get those things. There’s no there’s plenty of room for everybody in this world. We don’t have to be living like this and we’re choosing to. And you know, I gotta tell you, that’s one of the things that makes me most upset is I sit here on a daily basis as a man of conscience, you know, and I look around me at the world and I say what am I gonna do? I gonna sit right now, I could be laying on the on the couch with my little girl, my beautiful little family, you know, and showing love and getting love and and just enjoying life. But no, I gotta sit here and talk on a radio show because this is the life that I’ve chosen and, you know, tomorrow morning I’m gonna get up and fight a battle and then next week I’m gonna go and give a speech somewhere and, you know, there’s so much negativity, so much negativity and the fact that we’re faced with the decision, where it’s forced upon us that you cannot simply kick back and live in peace and disappear anymore. There is no running into the mountains and just living off of the land anymore and forgetting about the world. It doesn’t exist anymore. And that, most of all, just makes me so sad and so angry that we’re put in that position. You know?
Alan Steinfeld
No, but that position is really key to our evolution. You see, we are no longer solitary individuals. We need to come together collectively and that’s where we’re going. We’re coming into a oneness as a planet. That’s, that’s the purpose of the internet, to pull these pieces of ourselves that we think are separate, we’re now realizing we are connected in a conscious way.That’s the purpose of the internet.That’s the purpose of the internet and that’s the purpose of our own political, spiritual evolution.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
I thought it was sending me Viagra samples.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, yeah, that’s what… Unfortunately, one of the downsides. But the truth is, it is the nervous system of our collective consciousness.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Yeah, it’s kinda cool. It is gonna be neat to see where this goes from here. That’s something I think about quite often, being a technology guy. You know, I grew up in this stuff.You know, I started in desktop publishing, you know, when the first, you know, first the very first editions of Adobe at the time it was Aldus Pagemaker and Freehand it was, and you know… these, these systems and seeing where it’s come in 15 years, it’s unbelievable, man. It’s unbelievable.
Alan Steinfeld
I mean, the people that were normally the architects and all the geniuses, and there’s a certain percentage of geniuses per generation, are putting their energies into developing these types of gifted technologies that are helping and assisting our evolution. That’s where I see it. It’s a new art form. Is technology.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Yeah. It is. I see it, I see it very much that way as well. I really do. And the thing that concerns me is again, just like with any technology, you know, you get the folks that are hell bent on using it for destruction and control and that’s what they’re gonna try and do. You know. And then… and that kind of.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. But I mean that kind of always be stuff like that. But let me ask you one question because you know, you are fighting the monster let’s say. But how do you avoid, you know, corporate America in your daily life? I mean you.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
I don’t. I don’t.
Alan Steinfeld
You don’t. So you are being subdued by the very thing that you think you’re fighting against. It’s, it’s, I hate to point that out to you, but you’re living in illusion as well. Perhaps, I mean I’m just trying.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
To a lesser degree than many others, however, I’m not certainly not suggesting that I’m free by any stretch of the imagine… I’m sitting here right now utilizing these big companies telephone lines to talk to you. I utilize Verizon and all these big companies to do what I do on the internet and you know, my computers are all made of petroleum products. I mean, I’m not, I am not sitting here being preachy and saying that I’m holier than thou, not by any stretch of the imagination.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, no you know, you’re not. But how do we, how do we get free of a system that is totally we’re using. I mean, how do you how does the fish get outside the fish tank? It’s like, you know, how do we overcome, let’s call it the monster, whatever you want to call it.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well, I don’t think it’s; I don’t think it’s the system per se. I mean there are there are things that we can do to streamline and make the system more based upon constitutional principles rather than fascistic principles. You know, those are those are just some common sense things, you know, Aaron the point of Aaron Russo’s movie, you know, getting back to the gold standard and and getting back to real money versus fake money where we’ve enabled our these private bankers to, to issue money at credit at interest rates to the United States people creating money out of nothing, taking us to the cleaners, racking up huge debt while controlling our economy. They’re getting rich off of it and we’re paying the price for it. I don’t know that necessarily a way to or that we have to get rid of the system per se. We have to optimize the system as best we can.
Alan Steinfeld
But getting back to Aaron Russo, I mean the main point of that movie from from Freedom to Fascism was the thing that we don’t have to pay income tax. That federal income tax.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
No, that wasn’t the main point. He started, he started down that road in, in that he always heard this and he decided to investigate it. And in his investigation, he discovered much more. And that being that that whole federal income tax, the whole federal reserve, our whole American economic system, is really just the tip of the iceberg, that that’s just simply one means of control that is being exercised upon us by a globalist group of people who are who are hellbent on establishing a prison planet. Where we are microchipped and controlled 24/7 like herds of sheep. And that’s what he uncovered and that’s the point of the movie.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, so how, with all the things we’ve said in this discussion and all the things that we’ve been, how can we change this? How can we create the world that me and you know is possible?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well, I think the first step is getting you know getting a leaders in place within the system that are speaking truth and that are going to hold to the principles that well as you’re saying that people like us believe in that are not serving the principles or the purposes or the desires or the machinations of the of the folks that to use your term are are ignorant and are you know motivated by by more malevolent motivations, you know. Yeah, we need to get good people in there that are going to affect the change that’s necessary.
Alan Steinfeld
And so who do you like? Do you like Dennis Kucinich?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Right now, you know, we’re solidly behind Ron Paul for president. I think the man’s a good man. Yeah, I think he’s you know, he’s the only one that’s out there talking about constitutional issues. He you know, he’s he’s tackling these hardcore issues and is not afraid to speak the truth in regards to breaking and taking the blinders off that we’ve been that we you know all this this these lies that we’ve been sold about our system and how things work. He sees it, he speaks clearly, and it’s an amazing phenomenon to see this very humble quiet guy that has people from all ages and all socio-economic backgrounds coming behind him. You know, so we’re solidly behind him. Absolutely. Ron Paul for President.
Alan Steinfeld
Where is he from?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
He’s from Texas. He’s a congressman from Texas.
Alan Steinfeld
Uh-huh. Are you liking Dennis Kucinich, huh?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Yeah. Oh yeah, without a doubt. Yeah.
Alan Steinfeld
Absolutely. So we only have a few bit more times. Let’s talk about We are… We are the Change and also what your whole opinion on 9/11 and what what what…
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Yeah, absolutely.
Alan Steinfeld
What your opinion of that?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well, my opinion in in and based on the research that I’ve seen and reading, you know, all sides to the issue, the you know, visiting Shanksville myself, you know, being there, seeing it. Yeah, actually I have some of my footage that I shot down there is going to be in the new Loose Change the Final Cut. Dylan, Dylan and the boys used that. And you know, there’s just some…
Alan Steinfeld
What did you find there? Tell us.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well, you know, first off, a hole that’s like 24 feet wide, you know? And if you, you know, this whole, this whole, the whole story, the whole official story when you stand there and you, and you listen to the story and you look at the land and you and you talk to some of the locals and you hear their stories about that what they saw that day, it just doesn’t it just doesn’t line. It doesn’t line up. Well, we have an interview that’s going to be going up on my website here pretty soon at citizensadvocate.net, that’s one of my radio talk shows, but we interviewed a lady that just for instance, this is just one of many, we interviewed a lady that was driving to pick up her grandkids one morning and that morning and she was driving along and her see you know CD player playing in her van and she stopped at a at a rural intersection and you know you can imagine you pull up to a little intersection there, it’s kind of a T, right? And there’s a line of trees in a house ahead of you by about 40 feet ahead of you, and you know 50, 60 foot pine trees there. Well, as she’s sitting there at the stop sign, a white craft, a small white craft went flying right over her van, underneath the power lines. Like literally she’s saying a foot, a foot and a half, two feet right above her van.
Alan Steinfeld
Like a small plane or like a UFO?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Like well, well this is this is what’s weird about this. She, she described it as a small white craft that swooped down right over her windshield and and right toward the trees across the street and then banked hard right up over the trees and dropped right back down over the trees again. Now this was on the ridge and we got this on video where she explains this.
Alan Steinfeld
It sounds like a guided, do you think it’s a guided missile?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well the way that I don’t, I’m not gonna say what I think it is, but based on what she is saying, it has the characteristics of some sort of device that’s capable of hugging terrain like that. I’m not a military analyst, I’m not an intelligence guy, but based on what she’s saying, the bottom line is this, that she saw a small white craft about the size of her van she says that was cylindrical in shape. No wings noticeable, fins on the back.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh wow. Cylindrical?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Cylindrical, cylinder shape that was that had fins on the back that was all like a composite plastic. She said I could see the underside of it and it was all one no rivets, no seams. It was all perfectly smooth and white and it and completely silent. Completely silent. Shot down up over, boom. She didn’t even know that the plane supposedly had hit. She rode up the street. She was she was in a panic thinking that a small white plane had crashed. Well the more she investigated this over time the more she has come to the conclusion that it had to have been some type of you know of drone like a Predator or a missile or something. But the point being whatever it was, whatever it was, she went to the FBI with it and they didn’t want to hear anything about it. They didn’t want to have to hear anything about it. And there are other people that were reportedly seeing other things, strange in the sky that day, other strange incidents that simply were not addressed. And the lady sitting there going, listen, I don’t know what it was. I’m not going to pretend to know what it was, but I sure as hell know that it was not a 757. And I sure as heck know that if indeed our government truly wants to get to the bottom of what happened on that day, they should be investigating me. But instead…
Alan Steinfeld
Well to prove their point.
Alan Steinfeld
But instead they’re telling me and giving me reasons why I shouldn’t be talking to them. They’re telling me, oh well, we don’t need to interview you because this reason or that reason or whatever. So it just doesn’t wash. Their explanations do not stand up to true scientific scrutiny. Whatever it was, the official story when you sit there and you analyze it down to its finer points, the overall official story fails to be able to stand up to the scrutiny of its individual parts. Period.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Right. Okay. I mean, they are to investigate what it was. That’s their job. Not.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. But I mean, okay, I believe this, but if that is true, what happened to the plane. Was it vaporized or…
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
I don’t know, I have no idea. I have no idea. I’m not even going to speculate. So for me, you know, you ask me about my my my you ask me about my opinion with you know with 9/11. Overall I come from the standpoint of I’m not going to pretend to say that I have any clue how it happened, why it happened, or how the crime went down. But I do believe, I really truly believe that that this was a staged what they term a false flag attack, a staged attack upon the United States by rogue elements within the United States or within globalist elitist channels that that did this to trigger the global war that that then ensued and to enslave the American people. Put us in a footing of panic where we would give up all of our rights in the Military Commissions Act, the the the Patriot Act, the new executive order that Bush just passed, you know, if if you oppose the war in Iraq under any circumstance and in any way at all, you now, through the Treasury Department, can have all of your assets seized.
Alan Steinfeld
That’s amazing. He passed it.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Isn’t that amazing? And all of these policies. All of these policies go back to 9/11 man. You know?
Alan Steinfeld
I know. But how did Congress let him pass that law? How did that…
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
You know what? Isn’t it unbelievable? Isn’t it unbelievable? Well, it wasn’t a law. It’s not a law. It’s a, it’s not a law yet. It’s a, it’s an executive order. Now they have 30 days to overturn it. If indeed they don’t overturn it, then it has the weight of law. But you know why…
Alan Steinfeld
Are people bringing this up in Congress to talk about it? Why aren’t they?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well, isn’t that a good question? You know, why are they, why are, why is Homeland Security giving no-bid contracts to Halliburton to build billions and millions of dollars worth of domestic detention centers, you know? Come on, give me a break. I mean…
Alan Steinfeld
That’s obvious because that’s control. I mean, that’s an obvious control. I know, no, but but isn’t who, why isn’t someone awaking and bringing this to the attention of Congress? Is there any organization talking about?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
We are. I mean, we’re hammering it, man.
Alan Steinfeld
And what are you getting? What kind of response are you getting?
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well, we’re hearing reports back from people saying already, you know, basically what it comes down to is you call the offices up, you say, hey, I’m a constituent, are you aware of this? And they basically go, well, a lot of people calling saying that they want the war stopped. A lot of people calling saying that they blah blah blah, but no, this is the first time that we really heard of this. You know.
Alan Steinfeld
So, when more people call it they can’t use that line more than a few times. I mean, really you can’t, you really, if they mean once a lot, enough people call, they can’t say it’s the first time they’re hearing about it.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well, what’s interesting about this is there was a groundswell of people that rose up against this whole immigration bill several weeks ago and it got killed. And there were reports even in the mainstream media that the switchboard at the Senate just it crashed because of the volume of calls. And the bottom line is these are people. They’re fat cats and they are making money and they’re living the high life, period. And you know regardless of whether they’re evil or just ignorant or just stupid and lazy or really they’re good people, the fact is they recognize that they can get voted out. So when you do call them and I was down at the state, there’s a great interview, you, people need to see this. We went to the state capital in Harrisburg, go to restoretherepublic.com and I did an interview with the state representative Sam Rohrer. Now this man embodies what politicians should be. And he, his attitude anyway towards what government should be. He’s working with grassroots organizers here in the state of Pennsylvania to get the Real ID Act killed on a state level here, saying no, Pennsylvania’s not going to comply with this. Well, there’s a great interview there, look for the interview with Sam Rohrer at restoretherepublic.com. But the cool thing that I wanted to get at was one of the points that he mentioned about grassroots activism. He said, you gotta realize that we realized, even the most arrogant people in government do realize that if one person calls, they realize that there’s probably a hundred people out there that feel that way. So if ten people actually call, they realize there’s probably thousands of people out there that feel that way. If we get a thousand phone calls, we know people are really, really, really, really concerned and we gotta take a look, hard look at what they’re saying.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. So is there anything coming together about the executive order, any public protest coming about that last executive order that…
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well, all of this, it’s one of the things that we were just discussing. I was honored to be able to attend as a delegate for my organizations the Philadelphia Conference, the Emergency Anti-War Conference that happened over the fourth of July. And that was very, very cool and that the whole Philadelphia platform is growing out of that. And of course Cindy Sheehan right now is out there pounding hard. She just got arrested the other day down at Conyers office pushing for impeachment. And we’re still not hearing that type of a focus on this executive order in regards to, you know, street actions and what not. Right now it really just hit the consciousness through the Patriot Network just about three days ago. So you know, we’re we’re trying, you know, we’re talking about it on our talk shows, we’re trying to get the word out through our news media, and we’re making telephone campaign, phone calls and email you know, harassing our representatives in that regard, but I’m not aware of any any massive street action, although there should be. We already be…
Alan Steinfeld
Well, isn’t this the most important thing because this is martial law he’s trying to…
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well, you know what, it’s even beyond martial law. What this is is you know what, that’s a good question. I don’t know why the hell aren’t we on the why aren’t we on the steps of the capital tomorrow?
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah. Because this is the most important. Yeah. Exactly. Why aren’t we? Let’s, let’s look, well don’t say you don’t know, let’s put something together.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
I, hey, you know, what’s your email? I’ll tell you what, anybody listening to this, we have a huge network, okay? We’ve we’ve got we’ve got we’re we’re right when you consider I know you some people have heard of us and what we’re doing, other people haven’t, but when it regards to the resistance if you will, we’re on the front lines and we know everybody that is.
Alan Steinfeld
Where do we where are you, where do we get in touch with you? Give us some information.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Well, personally, okay, you can go to the websites themselves if you want to learn more are freedomtofascism.com. Now that’s about the movie. Freedomtofascism.com. You want to learn more, you can watch it for free, you can order it, you can get involved in distributing it as an activist tool. If you want to get directly involved with broader activism, restoretherepublic.com. Now for me personally, you would reach me through Ettarocom. That’s ettaro.com or my personal ema…
Alan Steinfeld
E-T-T-A-R-O.com. Okay.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
dot com and my personal email is samuel, s a m u e l at ettaro. That’s ettaro.com. And you can see links up there to my various radio show projects and what not as well. I’ve got a couple national radio shows that I do and all kinds of fun stuff. But, you know, anybody that’s interested in helping organize something specifically in regards to fighting against this executive order, I, you know, I’m open to suggestions. I don’t know, you know, I don’t think going to D.C. waving a bunch of placards in a no free in a in a free speech zone and then going home the next day is going to do the trick. You know this is it’s it’s I I’m with you sir.
Alan Steinfeld
But this is more important than 9/11. I mean 9/11’s…
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
It in a way, in a way it is because he’s basically saying.
Alan Steinfeld
Of course that’s past, like I mean why I mean of course it happened, of course it was weird, but this affects our future.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Right. Hard core. This is and if you haven’t read it, go to the whitehouse.gov. Actually, if you go to wtprn.com, that’s the network that I’m on, wtprn.com. Look down for something new executive order new executive order squashes Fifth Amendment I think is the story or just get follow the links or just go to whitehouse.gov and go under news press releases I think it is an executive orders and you’ll see it right there. July 17. Hell, just go to Google and type in July 17th executive order, okay? And it states…Have you read it? Did you read it?
Alan Steinfeld
I have read it. And it’s I can’t believe it.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
It’s the thing is it’s not even they’re not even masking it. It’s not even like legal mumbo jumbo. A tenth grader can understand the language. It says any person, and it defines any person as a U.S. citizen, someone inside the US, blah blah blah blah blah. It’s any person, any group, any organization, any coming together for any reason in opposition to the administration’s policies in Iraq and trying to stop funding for these, you are subject to complete asset forfeiture through the Treasury Department and the State Department with no due process and no advanced warning. Period. And it says that.
Alan Steinfeld
Isn’t that against the Constitution? I mean.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
A little bit. I mean there probably. You know when I read that, man. You know, I mean I’m laughing. I’m laughing out of just pure frustration because it’s so ludicrous, you know, it’s like it’s like something you would you know, did you ever see the movie Brazil?
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah, right.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
The scene where the guy on Christmas Eve, they drop the stormtroopers drop out of the out of the ceiling and crash through the door and they take the husband away and they and they read her her rights and give her a receipt for her husband, you know? It’s like that it’s so ludicrous. It’s like a scene out of a Monty Python movie, but there it is right there issued by our President on the White House website. People need to wake up.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, I agree with it. We’re just about out of time. I think just issuing an executive order like that is impeachment material. I know just the thought that you can get away with something like that.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
It’s unbelievable. Unbelievable.
Alan Steinfeld
Anyway Samuel, thank you, thank you for a really great time here. And if people want to reach you or listen to your radio program, just give us the times and the websites.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Yes, I’m on every Thursday night on Revere Radio Network. revereradio.com. The home site for that show is called the Citizens Advocate. It’s citizensadvocate.net. And that’s 8 o’clock to 10 o’clock Eastern Standard Time every Thursday night. Free radio.
Alan Steinfeld
We don’t want to take people away from BBS radio.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
No, okay. Well then, well then go to, go to, go Friday night then. Go to, Friday night you can go to wtprn.com, and plug in at 8 o’clock to 10 o’clock. That’s where I do my Ettaro Live show. Man, did I have a great show last week? Jerome Corsi and Connie Fogel from the Constitution Action Party
Alan Steinfeld
Well we’ll do another show at sometime.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
You gotta run. I can hear you’re rushing.
Alan Steinfeld
I do, I do. Thank you. I’ve been talking to Samuel Ettaro.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Hey, I’d love to have you on my show too.
Alan Steinfeld
Have me on. I talk about new realities more from a spiritual perspective. We’ve been listening to New Realities.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
What’s your email?
Alan Steinfeld
My email, for everyone and you is newrealities@earthlink.net. My name is Alan Steinfeld and you’ve been listening to New Realities on BBSRadio.com. I’m going to go out with my favorite little theme song here, which is really talks about a spiritual perspective. The song is “Soul”. Thank you for listening.
Samuel Anthony Ettaro
Thank you, my friend. Keep in touch.
Alan Steinfeld
Thank you for listening to New Realities on BBS Radio. I’m Alan Steinfeld and you’re listening to Chris Williamson and the song “Soul”. And I’ll see you, talk to you, listen to you next week. Thank you.