New Realities recorded on March 12, 2022
Summary
Alan Steinfeld and Jojo interview Peter Moon, co-author of the Montauk Project series. They discuss his initial meeting with Preston Nichols, the connections between the Philadelphia Experiment and Montauk, time travel research, and psychic experiments involving Duncan Cameron. Moon also delves into his later research in Romania, exploring the ‘Lion’s Gate’ phenomenon, ancient pyramids on Long Island, and connections to Egyptian Pharaohs. The conversation touches upon the challenges of researching these topics, including censorship and the involvement of various intelligence agencies.
Transcript
Alan Steinfeld
Welcome back to New Realities. Again, I’m being joined by my co-host for this show, Jojo. I will get it right sometime.
Jojo
Michael Aizic.
Alan Steinfeld
Michael Aizic, thank you, who’s one of the co-founders of Ascension Together, which is a key focus on transformation. And she has brought me together after I introduced her to Peter Moon, but this is a very exciting occasion because Peter Moon, I’m sure everyone watching knows him, but he’s been at the forefront of research, technological information. He brought the world the Montauk Project, he’s investigating time travel, a new take on Roswell. Anyway, so much to talk about, Peter. Thank you for being here today.
Peter Moon
Well, it’s a pleasure to be with you both.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, I’m really excited about some of your latest research, which is about the Transylvania mysteries. Would you say that? And then we’ll go into Montauk and Roswell, or what’s your late… oh, what is the latest?
Peter Moon
Well, we should start… we should start with Montauk because that’s what I’m most well-known for. And I think the Montauk Project, of course, for those who are new to this interview, was a… is a book, The Montauk Project: Experiments in Time, co-authored with myself and Preston Nichols. And that book was an effort by Preston Nichols to explain his weird experiences that he had living on two timelines.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. I just want to say Peter is so prolific. The Montauk Revisited book, The Montauk Project book, The Montauk Book of the Dead… I mean, yeah. So, continue, but I just… love your…
Peter Moon
I’ve done 20 books. 20 books that I’ve co-authored or edited and published. So… skybooksusa.com, you can see all my books there.
Alan Steinfeld
So how did you meet Preston Nichols? Because he’s the one who really got the whole Montauk thing going.
Peter Moon
Of course, that is his story. skybooksusa.com, you can see all my books there. But, Preston Nichols, I met because he was an inventor, not because I had heard about his story. He was a prolific inventor of electromagnetic implements and stuff. So I was… some friends of mine directed me to him because I was in the advertising and design business at that time, and I was looking at doing brochure work for this machine. But it turned out these friends of mine told me that Preston had invented a better machine. It turned out he actually kind of created that other machine, too, and he needed help with marketing.
Alan Steinfeld
But you weren’t into any of this, I would say, not weird stuff, but out there stuff before Preston? Were you had curiosity?
Peter Moon
Well, I had a whole history in Scientology that was like seven years earlier than that. I was not involved in Scientology at that point, nor am I now. But I had a whole background with L. Ron Hubbard and understanding a lot of, I guess what you’d say, paranormal phenomena and stuff that goes on with the mind and people’s, mind control and that sort of thing. So that…
Alan Steinfeld
I also want to add that a lot of the early remote viewers at the Stanford Research Institute were also into Scientology. Ingo Swann, Hal Puthoff, these were also some of those.
Peter Moon
That’s correct. That’s correct. And the background there, learning about mind control and implantation and the psychic phenomena attached to that, was like a prerequisite sort of for me to meet Preston Nichols, who was steeped in it. He was steeped in this stuff far further than… For example, L. Ron Hubbard said there were implant stations, but none on this planet. And everything that Preston Nichols talked about contradicted that. It was like, wow, it was not only an implant station, it was an implant station that involved time travel. So I even though that was not what brought me to Preston Nichols in the mundane sense, it was sort of a synchronistic or psychic direction that brought me to Preston Nichols looking for to find myself, my own career. What was my life’s vocation? Was the Montauk Project and all that has come forth from it? Because I wasn’t designed to be just in the field of design and advertising, which was coupled with my wife at the time, who was a very good… she designed the original books and she was a very gifted, award-winning designer, so we were sort of a team. And but so I found my vocation with Montauk and and writing and whatnot, which is what I wanted to do in the first place.
Peter Moon
But to get back on to the question, Preston Nichols had experience on multiple timelines in his life. He couldn’t figure out his life, and the Montauk Project research that he did was an effort to understand himself. And he would be the first to tell you, he’s passed away now, but he would be the first to tell you that he had a very, very bizarre and inexplicable life. And there were… so so that that… go ahead, you were going to ask.
Alan Steinfeld
No, no. I just want to… no, keep going. But then how does it tie into Al Bielek and Duncan Cameron and all of that kind of Montauk boys?
Peter Moon
How I met Preston, it’s very interesting. It was, I remember, it was November 7th of 1990, was the day that I was to go to a lecture at the Long Island chapter of the U.S. Psychotronics Association.
Alan Steinfeld
Was that Howard Metz?
Peter Moon
Yes, Howard Metz.
Alan Steinfeld
I loved Howard Metz. I went to that store and yeah. Okay, so you went there, yeah.
Peter Moon
Howard Metz was the vice president of psychotronics and he had his own Institute of Pyramidology. He was very knowledgeable about the Great Pyramid and about the Federal Reserve. He was a very intelligent man. Very unique and bizarre in his own right. But yes, and Preston Nichols and of course I had seen, I guess, the week before I met Preston Nichols, it was Halloween, I saw, I woke up and I saw I guess you call it a UFO going up… I looked out my window, which was to the north, and I looked out my bedroom window and I saw this UFO go up. It was about 6:30 in the morning. And then I I said, was that or wasn’t it? I saw another one go up. Now, you know, it could have been a I don’t know what the hell it was, because it’s just a blip going up. This does not happen. So I saw two of these. A week later, I meet Preston Nichols. And of course, I went there to talk to him. I didn’t know I was going to be subjected to a lecture. Or so anyway, he said that I met him. Preston, I could see was somebody who was not in his body. I could see this. He was… and he looked at me and smiled and I gave him my card and he says, you can talk to me, but you’re going to have to wait till the break because I’m on a panel today and we’re going to be talking about earth changes. So there was a panel and on the panel was Duncan Cameron, Bernice Looy, who was an expert from Cold Spring Harbor Labs, she was retired, an Asian lady, Howard Metz, Duncan Cameron, who was a very pivotal character in the Montauk Project, and a man named Ken Akeley, who was an expert in the ARE, Edgar Cayce’s stuff. So, Al Bielek was sitting next to me in the audience. And I was next to Al Bielek. And then, as the lecture about earth changes… was they were talking all about the Philadelphia Experiment. And then it evolved into the Montauk stuff. Montauk Project this and they kept talking about Montauk. I’d never heard of Montauk Project before, of course I’d heard of Montauk, and never been there. And then Al was in the audience and he started chiming in and talking about all these Nazis at Montauk. And the story was very rich. It was a very rich… I was interested in science fiction as a young person and still had an interest in it. But I said, this is this is a great story. I said, is there a book on this? They said, no, no, there’s no book. And then he says, if you want to come down to the lab, anybody call the secretary and she’ll arrange for you to go to the lab. So, I…
Alan Steinfeld
Could you just back up one second for people who don’t know what the Montauk Project was and are you going to get to that? And its relationship to the Philadelphia Project and the…
Peter Moon
I will succinctly explain that. The Montauk Project was based all upon the early research of the Philadelphia Experiment of 1943, which was an effort by the Navy to make a ship, the USS Eldridge, appear invisible to radar. And there are multi-levels to the project as Preston said. A lot of stuff was going on that we still don’t know about. But basically when they made the ship appear invisible to radar, it went out of this dimension and time and space. It was displaced, and the sailors aboard, with the exception of Duncan Cameron and Edward Cameron, who were shielded, the people were discombobulated mentally. They lost what are called their time references. And they were mentally… some of them exploded, spontaneously combusting. And there are various, of course, this has been very hidden, but there are also a lot of anecdotal evidence to back up that it did indeed happen. Which is a whole ‘nother talk in itself. But the point is they did the research of the Philadelphia Experiment. In it is what is now Brookhaven Labs. They took many of the sailors to Camp Upton, which is now Brookhaven Labs. It was a World War I convalescent hospital in Yaphank, Long Island. And they began to study what made the mind of man go nuts when it went out of this dimension or out of time. And all of that research, which initially took place at Brookhaven Labs, led forward to develop what was called the Montauk Project because they were integrating the mind of man with radio waves, radio frequency, in which Preston Nichols was an expert. And…
Alan Steinfeld
But the key to Montauk from Philadelphia was that the ship, the Eldridge, appeared, this is what they say, 40 years later in Montauk, right? Is that the connection?
Peter Moon
Yes, yes, yes. It appeared in in Norfolk, Virginia. It appeared, some people said in off Bermuda. Some people said it appeared at off the coast of Montauk. Now, that part of the story gets very weird and unwieldy, but but if you would have Al Bielek, Duncan Cameron, and Preston Nichols, all of whom are passed away, when you would get them in the same room talking about this, it was like a thought form was created that made it real. And it was it was very engaging and it was it was good story. It was some there was a lot of thickness to it. It was hard to comprehend. And I did my best to put it integrated as possible to make it understandable. However, as and so this is, it’s a very interesting topic. It’s very thick. But one of the biggest problems, it’s impeded with mind control phenomena of all the people involved in this were compromised mentally just as they were studying the sailors who were compromised, you have to wonder how compromised the people who were orchestrating the project. Because they used the the information from Josef Mengele’s torture experiments that he did on people, which included dwarves from Transylvania, by the way. That that’s a it included dwarves from…
Alan Steinfeld
Dwarves? You said dwarves from…
Peter Moon
Dwarves from Transylvania. Yes, dwarves.
Alan Steinfeld
What did the dwarf part have to do with the…
Peter Moon
They were part of a singing troupe and I think they were connected to the the Wizard of Oz, dwarves, but you can look up dwarves, Mengele, dwarves in Transylvania and you’ll see all this they they were they were taken and they were I don’t know where they were how they got them, but they Mengele experimented on these dwarves, he played music for them. There was a really weird relationship between Mengele and the dwarves. But that’s a that’s very much a side story. Yeah. But but they used the research of Mengele, because Mengele was a very meticulous researcher. He was a horrible humanitarian, a horrible human being, but he was good with his science, doing horrible experiments on people. So they were they had all the captured German documents to research. They had Nazi Operation Paperclip scientists and stuff like this that they worked with. So it was a joint effort between Germans and Americans. It always had been actually, but to to… go ahead.
Alan Steinfeld
No, with Montauk, the Montauk, what was Preston’s like, what was the timeline split? Talk about why it’s so important, actually, Montauk and the Montauk experiment.
Peter Moon
Well, why it’s so important, it gets very long, but Preston was trying to figure out his own life, because he was waking up and and, why am I so tired? Why am I so tired? His parents, he lived at home with his parents most of his life. And he said, why am I so tired? You know, they verified or his father did, that yeah, he would wake up so tired. And then one day he was having a dinner with his cousin, his cousin Julie and her husband. We’re having over at their house for I don’t know whose house they were at. And Julie’s husband began to recognize Preston. He says, I know you. Yeah, we worked together at Montauk. And Preston says, no, I never worked at Montauk. And they almost got in a fight over it because he says, no… Now, at Preston’s funeral, his mother’s funeral, I met Julie and she verified everything. She’s not into this stuff, but she verified it for me. I still know her to this day, but she she verified the story of her cousin. He says, yeah, and her her the husband was reportedly abusive and she got rid of that husband. She’s happily married now. But she verified this story that yeah. And so Preston saw I’m on two timelines. And then he tells this incredible story of going to work at Airborne Instruments Laboratory, known as AIL, which was not in the first book, because we couldn’t mention AIL at the time, because he still had a relationship there, even though he was unemployed. He didn’t want to anger them. But now that he’s passed away, I put it in the new book. I did a silver anniversary edition, which has a lot more stuff in it than the original book, which you…
Alan Steinfeld
What’s the name of the book? The Montauk Experiment? Is that it?
Peter Moon
The Montauk Project: Experiments in Time, the Silver Anniversary Edition. The Silver Anniversary Edition, which I have the exact book. Yeah, that’s the that’s the original book. There’s also the Silver Anniversary Edition, which has all sorts of notes in me in italics saying this is what the company was really AIL. It wasn’t BJM, which we called it. It was AIL, which was a huge defense contractor, and there’s a lot of weird stories around AIL that I I mention in the book that were not in the original book.
Alan Steinfeld
But was it, was it so important because it’s when the government first started to get into time travel technology and the shifting of timelines and the kind of confusion we’re in in that’s in the world today as a result of some of that…
Jojo
Well, also the facilitation of people without their consent.
Peter Moon
Well, yeah, that’s been going on. That’s been going on since the the dark ages of course. Around time travel. Well, yes. Yeah, there there is a… what you’d say a censorship and power issue. But we will fast forward to some of the more important relevancies because see, people know me primarily for the Montauk Project, and inevitably whenever I get up and talk to an audience, I have to start from square one because many people or some people have not heard of it.
Alan Steinfeld
But I have to say, without you, there would be no awareness of the Montauk experiment. There’d be no way…
Peter Moon
There would be some awareness of it, but it would be very thin. Because of course…
Alan Steinfeld
But I just want to acknowledge you for bringing it out with your books and your your important research.
Peter Moon
Thank you. Yeah. I I was able to as I say, I was in marketing and advertising so I was able to put it together coherently and and and put a very nice book out. Certainly one that was trafficable and marketable and and this was a skill that I had. And I also have a lot of skill in being able to put things as clearly as possible. I’m dealing with very tough subjects. It also gets into occultism and whatnot, which I have a an aptitude for as well, which I learned by reason of my experience in Scientology. Not that Scientology was into the occult, but I I learned how to how to edit and write and and deal with weird concepts that people don’t understand. So that there was a whole background in occultism as well that I accumulated. So all of these factors is and then when you get to time travel, it’s kind of like the the mother of all mysteries. But if we… So what’s important for people to know, the Montauk Project, which is its own there’s got to be 100,000 copies of that book out there somewhere, which is a lot, but it’s not a lot. So compared to millions of books of something. So anyway, and it will get bigger in the future. But the thing is, I’ve done so much research and work since then that many of my initial audience or people who’ve heard of it, they don’t have time to read 20 books, or they don’t know about the 20 books. So as we fast forward, so much has developed since then that some people who met me 25 years ago and they say, oh yeah, they had no idea what I’ve done since then, which is all progress.
Alan Steinfeld
But before we fast forward, can you just bring in, for me, because I I knew Duncan Cameron pretty well, I went to visit him, and Al Bielek. How did they all fit into the Preston Nichols story? I mean, that might…
Peter Moon
That’s a very good question. It’s a very good question. Because of course, Duncan was not initially… well, he helped Preston understand what was going on, but he came to Preston’s lab in 1984. He wanted a piece of stereo equipment fixed and he had been sent there by a guy named Jeff Smith. And he goes to Preston’s lab, knocks on the door, and Preston says, oh, he starts telling him what he’s been researching about stuff and psychic stuff. And Duncan is a perfect psychic because Preston was experimenting with psychics and radio waves. So Duncan was the perfect fit in his life. Uh, he was the perfect fit. And so they started working together. He took him out to Montauk because Preston had found out that all of his psychics were researching with would have a block at 3 o’clock, 3, 3:00 p.m. So he started out using radio direction finding to find out…
Alan Steinfeld
Wait, they’d have a psychic block, you’re saying? They at 3 p.m.?
Peter Moon
The psychics would have a block at 3:00 p.m. Psychic block where they weren’t able to tune in. They couldn’t they couldn’t do their stuff anymore. So he, you know, because he’s always working with signals and he had a van with with radio antennas. He he used a radio direction finder to find out where this signal was coming from that was blocking their ability to be psychic. And he traced it all the way down, hundreds of miles away or so, to Montauk. This huge radar dish with a gain horn, which is like a transmitter and a big antenna on it.
Alan Steinfeld
And it’s still there in Montauk.
Peter Moon
It is still there. It is still there. It’s falling apart slowly. But and on the day that falls down, it will probably be a great day for humanity. Because, but in any case, because of all the residue and whatnot. But in any way, so this is how Preston met Duncan and they began to work together and collaborate. And then they would also go to the U.S. Psychotronics Association annual meeting in Ohio. It was in Dayton, Ohio at that time. And so they would go there and Al Bielek used to go there because Al Bielek had his own he was an investigator of strange stuff for a long time. He even appeared…
Alan Steinfeld
But you know, it’s just interesting that it was in Dayton, Ohio, because that’s where the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base is, or you know, Patterson was…
Peter Moon
That’s a very good point. I never even thought about that. That’s a very good point that you make.
Alan Steinfeld
But, you know, Patterson, the whole Patterson family were involved in this secret technology working for the government, National Cash Register was out of there. And so there was this innovative technology coming out of Dayton and Wright Field became Wright-Patterson Field. So I don’t know, there’s some connection, right?
Peter Moon
Well, that’s that’s I never even knew about the Patterson family, so you you brought something to the forefront there and I thank you for that. But Al Bielek, so anyway, Al Bielek had they knew who Al Bielek was because they used to go to these annual meetings and they didn’t really have any particular association with him other than the fact that they they they knew him, not very well. So one day Al Bielek watched the movie The Philadelphia Experiment, which came out primarily in video. There’s a whole story behind that movie, but it was…
Alan Steinfeld
Wait, did that come out because of your book? Or no?
Peter Moon
No, no, no, no, no. That was way before the book. Oh, okay. 1984, I think is when it was released. It was the movie was initially was restricted. It showed, I think, according to witnesses, I don’t know anything of this officially, but I know somebody who saw it in Philadelphia. It was released in Philadelphia and they showed a real like a newsreel of the actual Philadelphia Experiment with the ship disappearing. There was a film of this. Wow. I’ve talked to people who’ve seen it or know about it. But it’s very obscure. Anyway, then they shut it down, they didn’t release the movie, and then it came out very mysteriously through a company in England that produced some movies on time travel in a V VHR format, or VHS format, rather, a videotape. Right. And this was Thorn EMI. Thorn EMI, and that’s that’s a whole separate story that is I write about in the second book, Montauk Revisited. So, anyway, when Al Bielek saw that movie, it triggered all of his memories of the Montauk of the Philadelphia Experiment and going on the ship. He was really Edward Cameron, and then he was put into the the Bielek family. It was a story that was strange, but and something that Preston could never fully buy into intellectually, but it was part of the lore and Al Bielek knew it very viscerally. So when when he saw that movie and triggered all his memories, he realized that Duncan Cameron was his brother from this and and this when he called this is very important, when he called them up to tell them, he says, I realized that Duncan Cameron’s my brother. And Preston Nichols said to him, with Duncan right there, says, yes, we already figured this out. But we didn’t tell you. We knew this. So we…
Alan Steinfeld
But it says it’s his reincarnated brother because Duncan…
Peter Moon
It’s a really… it’s a really strange story. And I don’t know that it’s important to digress into it, but it…
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, okay, we don’t have to go. Yeah.
Peter Moon
It’s a very weird story. I know, I know. Yeah. Yeah. So there are very weird elements to this story and I don’t know that they’re 100% accurate, but what is important is in in the Silver Anniversary Edition of the book, I all these things are corroborated, except for the actual time travel, with the initial investigation that Preston and I did, we corroborated all the ancillary circumstances, but not the time travel. Now, the time travel would then be corroborated from an outside source.
Alan Steinfeld
Wait, one more question I just want to ask you about Duncan. Sorry to interrupt, is that the Montauk Chair? That, you know, that was a, and like, supposedly, well, you can talk about it, the whole mind control, Montauk Chair, creating the Montauk Monster. I mean, it’s so…
Peter Moon
The Montauk Chair was a basically a name for what was a lounge chair where they would connect Duncan. Other psychics too, but mostly Duncan was the most reliable one, anyway. And they would connect him to with a series of, you know, receivers that would pick up his thoughts and read his thoughts and enable him to transmit out this huge radar transmitter at Montauk that would influence the minds and emotions of people, minds and their emotions. It would affect animals. And this is documented. But we can even show some of that. Yeah.
Alan Steinfeld
Wait, what… did they make a movie about that? With…
Peter Moon
You mean Stranger Things?
Alan Steinfeld
Was it Stranger Things?
Peter Moon
Stranger Things was originally titled Montauk. And that that…
Alan Steinfeld
Is that based on your book?
Peter Moon
Yes. Yes, it was based on my book and a lot of the the lore around the Montauk Project. And I wasn’t involved in the making of it. I’m actually pursuing to do an upcoming documentary if it ever gets done. The documentaries that have been done by outside sources never show it. They we give it to them, but they don’t show it. They they tone down everything. So I I…
Alan Steinfeld
I’d love to see… I’d love for you to share that if you care to at some point. Yeah.
Peter Moon
Certainly, Alan. We we can do a lot of stuff together. We’ve never really had, but we could. So anyway, but this is the beginning, thanks to Jojo, of our…
Jojo
Yes. Yeah. Exactly. She she’s my media person now. She’s my social media person.
Peter Moon
So, um, so anyway, where was I? I was talking about, oh, so I don’t remember what I didn’t want. So when they began to do all this manipulation of people’s emotions, minds, and influence people’s minds, then one day they figured out, it happened by mistake, that if Duncan could project an illusion that would be real, of a can of beer, say, it would then appear, but it would appear at the wrong time. This often happens in ordinary psychic phenomena. If you make a decision that you say, I’m going to the dance tonight and I want to meet a beautiful woman, and you, you put all of this energy into it, and you go to the dance and there’s hardly any women there and they aren’t beautiful. So then you’re walking down, you go to work the next morning and this beautiful woman comes in and it’s like, oh, oh, and you don’t connect it because you you ignored her because you thought you were going to meet one at the dance. It’s like things sometimes in the psychic sense appear out of, you know, it doesn’t appear perfect. And people get too caught up on the how. Right. They want it… they want to see it a certain way and control the elements around it, and that’s not how it works. They want it when they want it, not, you know, I want roast beef tonight and it comes to you in a sandwich the next day.
Alan Steinfeld
So there’s a time lag in this plane of existence, this 3D world, that you know, you want a new house, but you might not get it now, you might get it in five years or something. And usually it will come in an even better and more fruitful way than what our human mind or the ego would have constructed.
Peter Moon
That’s actually the work of Joe Dispenza recently. But yeah, yeah, go ahead, Peter. Yeah, that that’s a very good point. So then when they began to understand that there was time involved, they began to harness time and manipulate time. Now there’s a big problem with time, and this is where the Philadelphia Experiment gets involved, because in order to have time, and to, the actual hard science of time requires a… because time travel is proven to exist theoretically. And but in order to make it work, you need a huge amount of power. And this was a problem. So basically the Philadelphia Experiment, when it moved in time, it generated a lot of power. And when they were able to connect Philadelphia with Montauk, they had the power they needed.
Alan Steinfeld
I just want to say it it needs a lot of power because according to the Einsteinian theory of time-space, in order to bend time-space, you need a lot of force, to bend space and time. Yeah.
Peter Moon
So they were, without going into the circumstances of that, they they had to connect the two projects. And this was a, this is a part of the book, The Montauk Project, it occurred during what is called the August biorhythm, of August 10th to the 14th, it occurs every year, and this was 1943 when the Philadelphia Experiment took place, it climaxed at Montauk on August 12th of 1983, 40 years later.
Alan Steinfeld
That is also called the Lion’s Gate in the ancient Egyptian, that time period from like the the 8th to the 14th of August, it’s it’s the Lion’s Gate and some…
Peter Moon
Well, I didn’t realize that. Thank you. You’ve given me some some nice things today, Alan. Thank you. Really? It’s it’s good because I, because as we go forward with this Lion’s Gate, as you call it, like, that’s consistent with my other research. I just didn’t know that name. So it’s like every year there is a phenomena that will occur around that. So maybe without going…
Alan Steinfeld
What what’s the phenomena that actually occurs at that what is the manifestation?
Peter Moon
Well, okay, I think it’s good to digress. A little bit, yeah, sure. Right. Well, it’s not really a digression. I want to un-digress a bit because I don’t want to go into how the beast, this beast destroyed the whole project. I know, I know. But you know so much, Peter, I mean, we could talk for days.
Jojo
But this is what’s important. This is what’s important. Okay, so before we get to the, and keep me on that Lion’s Gate because it’s very important. Okay, so as I began to investigate the Montauk Project with Preston, there was a very, I guess what you’d call, journalistic investigation, which was chronicled in my newsletter, The Montauk Pulse, which is…
Alan Steinfeld
I should send you that every, every season that it comes out. I’d love that. It’s fantastic. I love it.
Peter Moon
I should. I should. And Jojo, you have to remind me to do that with him. So anyway, that I’ve kept that in print since 1993, it’s available at the skybooksusa.com website. But anyway, as I began to investigate the Montauk Project, uh, journalistically, which we covered in the newsletter, I also had separate experiences in synchronicity, which was, which involved occultism. And all of these synchronicities, and they’re fascinating. They led me to the door of Marjorie Cameron, the wife of Jack Parsons, who was involved, the three of them were involved with Elron Hubbard in an experiment called the Babylon Working. And so I had all this occultism and I’m not going to digress into that. That’s in my book, Montauk Revisited. But as we come full circle with this synchronistic investigation, I discovered that there were ancient pyramids at Montauk. And that the, the royal family of Long Island was, of the Native Americans, were the Pharaohs. And the Pharaohs, who were the guardians of the pyramids, they represent the, the Pharaoh is the interlocutor between heaven, or the celestial realm, and the earth. And…
Alan Steinfeld
Where were the pyramids on Long Island? Because I grew up on Long Island, and it’s very flat. So…
Peter Moon
No, they were, they were ancient pyramids. They don’t exist there. They, I, they were, in my book Pyramids of Montauk, they were probably, they were either near Sag Harbor, or off the coast of Montauk, which was like a hundred yards out at that time. It’s the, the tides have come in. The, the waterline has come in to the, where the lighthouse is now. But the pyramids were probably destroyed by the 1938 hurricane that occurred. It was, it devastated the East End of Long Island. There might have been one set. It depends who…
Alan Steinfeld
Were they Atlantean, originally, you would say?
Peter Moon
Oh, they, they were, they were more like mounds, but they were pyramidal in shape. And I met a, a Montauk Indian, Gail Eveningstar Olive Boyd, who was Gail Boyd, and she said that she remembered her grandfather talking about the pyramids and that they used to have an underground area where they would do ceremony in there. And all of her relatives thought she was nuts. Till she heard me talk about it at a gathering of Montauks. She says, thank you for validating my memories of what my grandfather told me. So, it was, I developed some very deep connections with the Montauk Indians, who were declared extinct in 1909 or 1910. And that’s a whole ‘nother story that, that, but they’re very important people in my life. But in any case, they were the guardians, or the custodians of, of that area, which is a very intense point on the ley lines of the planet. It’s hard to explain, but it sort of fits in, like if you had an icosahedron, it sort of resonates with where Cairo is in the way these things jitterbug, or gyrate, as Buckminster Fuller would say, the, the grid of the geometry. The grid.
Jojo
And the pharaohs of Montauk, Peter, are said to have a lineage to Egypt, is that correct?
Peter Moon
That’s correct. That’s correct. According to the shaman, she remembers seeing books when she was young, connecting them to the pharaohs of Egypt, and that’s, that’s in my book, Montauk: Book of the Living, goes deeply into that. But, so anyway, where, in ancient Egypt, the Lion’s Gate was, uh, August 12th was the birthday of Isis, which is of course highly symbolic, but the, the, the reason is, it was a time of fertility, when the Nile would flood and the fertility of the Nile would give them the crops to eat. So this was a sacred time. It’s a time of high heat.
Alan Steinfeld
Wasn’t it also the time where the star Sirius would reappear on the horizon?
Peter Moon
It is closest to the Earth at that time. And of course, in Montauk lore, the Sirius, it was Sirius technology that facilitated the Montauk chair. But, but, so this Lion’s Gate would, during August 10th to 12th would happen, and there, every year it would happen, but every 10 years, like say 63, 73, 83, 93, were very strong. But every 20 years was even stronger. So 43…
Alan Steinfeld
Wasn’t it also 43 for Philadelphia experiment? Was that 43?
Peter Moon
Yeah. 43, 63, 83, 2003, 2023. These are the strong dates. Now, it, so I want to say what happened. So we, in 1999, in 1999, August 11th, we had our Montauk Nights. We used to have in Bellmore, Long Island, every month. And it was August 11th, and there was this eclipse. It was an eclipse with a grand cross in the sky, and this was a big date. All the astrologers were looking at it. And I, so I was sitting there, I went, went to the event, which I co-hosted with Preston, although Preston did all of the talking practically, which was fine with me because he was the star of the show, and appropriately so. So anyway, we would have a gathering of, it could be anywhere from 10 to 30 people. It was probably about 20 that night. And sitting right in front of Preston was a, a man named David Anderson. He introduced himself as a physicist, and he talked, and he just listened to Preston. So then, afterwards, in the anteroom, he approached me and said, told me who he was and said that he had a time travel research center on Long Island. Now, I knew who he was.
Alan Steinfeld
Wait, what town actually? It was Smithtown, right?
Peter Moon
It was Smithtown originally. It was actually Hauppauge.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, it was Hauppauge, oh, okay.
Peter Moon
Yeah, it was, it’s an industrial park in Hauppauge, which is right next to Smithtown. His PO Box was in Smithtown. Right, that’s why I got that. And, and so I already had an idea of who he was, because he had subscribed to our newsletter on stationery that said Time Travel Research Center. And I thought this was some kid who was inventive and, and knew how to do stationery. Because I knew how to do that. So it didn’t impress me. It was just some fan. There were a lot of fans. So anyway, I saw immediately when he started talking that he was a real character, that he knew his science, he was brilliant. And, and he says, okay, we, what we can do is make time slow down or speed up the size of a soccer ball. It’s about that big. So he says, I’d like to get together with you sometime. So in about a week, in about a, in about a week, we met for lunch. He took me out to lunch, and he began to talk more about what he was doing, and he said he just gotten back from Romania a week or so ago. And the first thing he did when he got back from Romania, whether it was on purpose or not, is he ended up contacting me, going to the meeting. That was synchronistic. Uh, there’s disputes of how he got there, but we won’t go into that. The fact is he showed up, and he connected to me right after going to Romania. You know, it’s interesting. 1999, I was right near there. I was living in Wantagh, right next to Bellmore, and, yeah, getting…
Peter Moon
You weren’t far. You could have been there if you knew about the meeting. I know, I know. I would have loved that. So anyway, David said that he had this this research center, and that it was funded by the medical profession, or people, investors in the medical industry. Because they said if we can slow down the rate of organs decaying, this is a, a gold mine, not only a gold mine financially, but it will save lives. And that and he said he generated a lot of investment capital from that. It was very intelligent because I could see how he kept all of his different people separate from each other, all of the technicians and people. He said he had a center in Long Island, he had a center in New Mexico, which I believe is still there to this day. And he had another one in Romania. So when he in Romania, when he went there, the way he ended up in Romania, he was in Germany working on a project and he was called, this guy was going to this conference in Romania called Atlantykron, which meets in the southeast Romania in, on the, on an island in the Danube every July, August. And he said to David, they called him and said, look it, I can’t go, maybe you can substitute for me. So David went to Romania and he met, uh, the man who was the director of the camp, and told him, look it, I’m doing this time travel stuff. It’s real. And it’s really real. And so this man, Sorin Repanovici, had had started this camp the last year of communism, 1989, when communism was still in in force in Romania. And he had gone to this island as a young boy, his father took him there fishing. Then as he got older, they began to have camps, and they’d read science fiction and they’d camp out. Then as his influence in the government grew, he began to, you know, bring in these houseboats, and, and people, and tents, and now there’s electricity, and there’s, you know, cooks, and food, and big tents. The bathrooms are a little rugged, but…
Alan Steinfeld
Right. Have you been there every, it’s still going on, you and…
Peter Moon
I’ve been there like nine or ten times. We’ll be there this year. It’ll be there this year.
Jojo
Jojo’s going with me.
Alan Steinfeld
And David Anderson still goes every year?
Peter Moon
No, David Anderson stopped going in 2010. His last year was 2009. But, but where I’m going with this is, is even more interesting. So anyway, David says, I want to get you to Romania. He says, there’s this lady, you’ve got to meet her. Her name’s Mihaela. Oh, she’s all, knows all about this metaphysics, you would like her. I really want you to meet her. Now, there was, because David had this technology which was very I guess what you call, important. There was a lot of scrutiny about it, and he was very mysterious. He says, you’ll see me sometimes, you know, I won’t always answer your emails, I come and go, and he had a…
Alan Steinfeld
Was he working… was he working for the government at one point, Anderson, or someone?
Peter Moon
He he was in the Air Force. This is where he developed this technology. But they didn’t appreciate it, they didn’t understand it, until he says, okay, I’m going, I’m going on my own. And then when he wanted to leave, they realized what they were giving up, and they tried to get him to stay, but he, Jay Rockefeller, who was his senator, came to his support and got him out of the military because what they were doing was illegal. So anyway, they still kept an eye on him. But in in so anyway, in 2001, just after 9/11 had happened. Now see, when you’re in the Air Force like he was, they can always call you back on reserve. So he invited me to his apartment in Kings Park, Long Island in November of 2001. And he said, I want to talk to you about two things. He says, he he had dinner for me and he says, I have two things. One is, I want to have a big event on time travel. I want to bring Preston in, I want to bring anybody in and have a whole East Coast physics departments, and he can bring all these people. He says, I want to do this event, I want to do it with you, I want to feature your work, I want to feature other people’s work, but you and Preston are going to be… And he was asking me for support and information on how to do this as far as what sort of a agenda to have. Not he, he knew how to get all the logistics of all the physics people together because of his connections in the government and whatnot. So he then says, once we talked about that, he says to me, we got talking about foreign stuff, and I said, the Chinese are very odd. I said, they were interested in my book in Frankfurt when I met them, and I didn’t hear from them for years, and all of a sudden five years later, they sent me a a season’s, holiday greeting card. I said, why would they send this five years after from now? It doesn’t make any sense. Like they still remember me after five years. That’s all I ever heard. He says, well, I have a Christmas card from China, and he takes me over to his mantle where the fireplace was. He has all these Christmas cards. He says, here, he shows me the Christmas card from China. It’s from the president of China. It’s from the president of China. And all of these cards are from world leaders, even Gaddafi. And they’re addressed to the Time Travel Research Center, the Smithtown PO Box. And…
Alan Steinfeld
Well, you know, Anderson told me that the next war will be a time travel war, if there is a war. I mean, so maybe governments, right?
Peter Moon
Preston Nichols was always told by his colleagues that that were in the know of this sort of thing, he said that World War II was always a war, war of time. He said it was always a war of time. This is what Preston was told by his insiders that he never really mentioned. But in any case, David said, there’s something else I want to talk to you about. And then he got very serious. He says, I’ve been told to go to Moscow, and I’m going to go to Moscow next week, and I’m told to bring my passport and my airline ticket, bring nothing else, because I won’t be able to keep it. So he says, if I don’t come back in two weeks. He said, I’ll only be there for two weeks. Uh, please make noise, as much noise as you can. So he takes off, uh, and after two weeks, I hear nothing. I don’t hear anything. Then after three weeks, I get a phone call from a friend of his. She, she says, David told me to call you in three weeks if he doesn’t communicate to me. Uh, so I don’t know who she is. I have a deja vu as if I’ve known her before, and then I find out… So then, we meet, I talk, and I’m talking to her, and she, she has no, she’s a very close friend of his, but she has no idea he’s involved in time travel. She’s shocked when I tell her this stuff. He knows her, you know, very well, and she doesn’t know this. So, so then we start, I start communicating, making noise on the phone, and then he writes to us, uh, he writes to three of us, I think, her, me, and the friend at the gym. And he says, who was the president of the boxing or something in in New York. But he writes to, uh, writes to us and says, hey, I’m okay. I’ll be back in a couple of weeks, don’t worry, I’m okay. And I was able to trace the email coming from Pakistan, something he will not admit to this day. It came from a server in Pakistan. Now, that’s where the army, the US military was gaining ground to go in and invade Afghanistan and Pakistan. They were, they were headed down. I assumed, now David was an expert in nuclear weapons. Uh, his time travel at that point had only been developed the size of from a soccer ball to a basketball. He said he…
Alan Steinfeld
He also told me that India had a time travel program as well.
Peter Moon
That comes later. Yes, it’s true. That comes later. So anyway, he said he had developed the size of the time travel field from a soccer ball to a basketball, but it he needed help in instrumentation. He said he was weak in instrumentation, he needed help. I said, well, Preston Nichols is an expert in instrumentation. I need to connect the two of you, who he already knew, they already knew each other, and he says, oh, okay, and that never happened, and perhaps there’s a very good reason that that didn’t happen. However, because Preston’s so chaotic, that it might have involved more chaos. It’s not that Preston wasn’t knowledgeable, it’s just there’s so much chaos, it could have been, it could have been too much chaos to handle. But in any case, uh, that never happened, but uh, so he he came back about two months later, called me up and thanked me for doing what I did, and then he said, uh, about a month later he said that he had troubles with his research center in Hauppauge, it was broken into twice. The government came and said, look it, we will help you, we will help you with security, uh, but you have to let us be partners with you. And that, I always assume that the government went in and did the break-ins in the first place. So any case, he went out of the time travel business, and he moved up to Rochester. And Rochester, he worked for a company called Bosch, a German company called Bosch. And he kind of disappeared, uh, and he would, he just disappeared. Now later, I was able to find out that he was in India, and he was developing security technology for Bosch. And I believe what he was doing, he was on a hiatus from his time travel so he could develop high security biodetection things, like with the retina, that could, so you could, he could keep his technology secure. This is what I believe he was doing at Bosch. To this day, I don’t really know. But uh, he had invited me to Romania, I never went, uh, but then in 2000… well, it was 2003… yes, it was about 2003, David called me and said I’d like to give you all my stuff from the Time Research Center that I, that is free. It’s mostly books and artwork and there, there were some digital stuff in there, that I said, okay, uh, so we, I, Preston and I drove up to Rochester to meet him. And, ’cause he was gonna give it all. He says, you need a big, big truck to take it in. So Preston had a van, and we went up there together. And on Saturday before Easter, I said to, to David, uh, so we we transferred all this stuff into Preston’s van and I said, uh, we’d like to take you out to dinner. Can I take you out to dinner? He says, no, I’m afraid I can’t. I can talk to you for about 15 minutes. And we talked and he says, look it, I’m going out of the time travel business, I won’t be able to work with you for five years, maybe four, but it’s, I think it’s gonna be five years. I’ve got to go do something else. And so uh, at about, it took me four years to get around to reading the book, which is a whole ‘nother story in itself, which I won’t go into. But when I did read the book, I said, okay, I started negotiating with Sorin Hermes in Bucharest to publish the book. The negotiations took months. And when we finally agreed, a week after agreeing and signing the contract, David writes to me and says, how would you like to go to Romania to the Atlantykron camp? He says, you can take another person, uh, it’s all expenses paid, you can come, this was 2008. And I said, oh sure, sure. Uh…
Alan Steinfeld
Can I just ask you, is Romania key in time travel? Is there something about the land there? And Anderson, Anderson himself hinted that he had time traveled personally. So, and what…
Jojo
That that’ll probably um segue into Chuck Lavina cave and Peter’s research.
Peter Moon
It will. It will. It will. But but I have to ask you, what did he say that he time traveled? I’ve never heard him say that.
Alan Steinfeld
No, he never actually said it, I kind of asked him and he goes, mm… It felt like he had somehow had an experience. He hinted at it. He didn’t come out and say it, but I got the feeling he had an experience.
Peter Moon
I think David’s had a lot of weird experiences that he doesn’t talk about. But I’ll tell you about one that he did tell me about. But, uh…
Alan Steinfeld
Maybe we’ll we’ll get up, we’ll talk…
Peter Moon
This this is very quick. He told me that when he used his his machine, he, which which created this field that the the animals in it or people in it would age faster. They got to the point where they could reverse time. And then the the rats un-aged and became young. They got younger. Okay, anyway, that’s beside the point. So to make a long story short, because I don’t want to get involved in Romania right now because it’s too thick of a subject. When I went there, this man from Romanian intelligence introduced me to a friend of his who who then said, hey, why don’t you write a book with Radu Cinamar? He gave, he had given me the book Radu Cinamar. So I I told Radu, I said I I will read the book, I read the book, I got permission to publish the book. Wait, hold on. My friend from intelligence gave me the book Radu Cinamar, who had already given me the the book from this guy’s friend.
Alan Steinfeld
I mean, who’s Radu Cinamar? Do we know?
Peter Moon
Radu Cinamar is a pen name for a a guy who works in what’s called Department Zero, the most secretive department in Romania. And he had written a book called Transylvania Sunrise, not knowing I was in publishing. So we agreed to publish this book. And this began an odyssey in 2008. So the book sat on my desk, that book came to my attention through David. That book, a manuscript of it sent to my desk from David in the year 2003 when I met him right right before Easter. It sat on my desk for four years. The exact book… I mean the manuscript of it. Actually David got the book, the book had been published in Romanian. He got a a spy from the United States military to sit down and read it. The spy read it in Romanian, he spoke fluent English and recorded it all onto a a CD ROM. A CD. The guy was a spy in the US State Department who spoke eight different dialects of Romanian. He he read the book out in his voice, David got his intelligence guys to type it up, and they sent a printed out, printed version of it. That printed out version sat on my desk for four years. And then I read it, got permission to publish it, the week I get permission to publish it, sign the deal, David says, come back to come to Romania with me to be my VIP guest at my VIP tent. It’s a whole long story, a beautiful story, but that tells that synchronicity. That is unbridled synchronicity. And I went to the camp and met everybody, the publisher, all the the guy from Romanian intelligence, a guy connected to him, uh…
Alan Steinfeld
Well, Peter, I am so… wait, go ahead Jojo. I was just gonna interject. I mean we don’t have time to go into the full Transylvanian series right now. We are going to have you back to focus fully on that because I want people to also have an understanding of some of the background in your history. And there’s so, starting with the Montauk and then the Transylvanian stuff has gotten very, very popular. And people can subscribe to the Montauk Pulse, which is his seasonal newsletter, and the most current one will be coming out soon.
Peter Moon
By the end of this month.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, thank you. I’m Alan Steinfeld with Jojo. What’s your website again?
Jojo
ascensiontogether.org.
Alan Steinfeld
And people can just find you…
Jojo
And Peter will be coming to Massachusetts on May 7th to Quantum Health and Wellness. May 7th or May 8th?
Peter Moon
May 7th. Saturday May 7th.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, boy, that’s good. May 7th is better than May 8th. Okay, I didn’t know that. Wonderful. So Saturday May 7th for a Qigong workshop at Quantum Health and Wellness in Seekonk.
Jojo
Massachusetts. And I’m sure you’ll talk about a few other things as well. So Peter let’s meet again soon. I’m curious… yes, we’ll keep the conversations going.
Alan Steinfeld
But when you get back from Transylvania, can you do a little report?
Jojo
Oh absolutely. Yeah.
Peter Moon
We’ll do a report together, yeah. Yeah, yeah, and maybe I’ll go in 2023, you know, it’s like that’s a…
Peter Moon
Alan, you can come. You can come this year if you want. I mean, it’s like I just, I just have to organize it.
Alan Steinfeld
Alright, I think I might be busy this year, but next year maybe. Thanks again, Peter. It’s a big deal next year. Next year. It is. Yes. Yes, it’s a it’s a real portal opening. The Lion’s Gate, thank you. Thank you for that. Scientology was brought up today, and L. Ron Hubbard. Peter has his book, L. Ron Hubbard: The Dao of Insanity, which is also a phenomenal book. Really? I didn’t know about that, Peter.
Peter Moon
Well, it’s it’s yeah, it’s, it’s it I didn’t promote it heavily but it is basically to extricate myself from all of the the Scientology energy that I didn’t want around me. Not that, that’s not a what do you call it, a criticism of Scientology, it’s a criticism of of what comes with it, or what came with it. But he was a bit of a genius, or did it just become sort of distorted after him or by him? Well, let me say, you’re dealing with human beings so there’s always a human element of distortion. But he was a very complex character, and I would say he was a genius. And a genius means inspired by the genie or the jinn. So he was, he was complex, he was intelligent, he was controversial, there’s been a lot of fallout, but that’s a whole ‘nother conversation.
Alan Steinfeld
Alright, that’s a whole other show, but…
Jojo
We can do it, we can do it if you want.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, after we do the time travel, after we go deeper into time travel…
Peter Moon
You can have me on every now and then, and I’m happy to to go in any direction you want to go in. And thank you, thank you both for putting this together.
Jojo
Thank you, Peter.
Alan Steinfeld
But thank you for your years of research and dedication, ’cause without you…
Peter Moon
Thank you for your recognition and acknowledgement.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, yeah, I just want to say, without you, I think so much would have been missed in the in the true history of the planet, so. We’re here. Together.
Peter Moon
Okay, thank you so much.
Alan Steinfeld
See you soon. Bye. Thanks. Bye-bye. Thank you all for watching. Thank you all online on the chat. Subscribe to this channel if you’ve been watching it on New Realities, youtube.com/newrealities.