New Realities recorded on December 12, 2012
Summary
Alan Steinfeld interviews Alison Kruse about her extensive documentation of UFO phenomena in Pennsylvania. Kruse details the various shapes, colors, and behaviors of the crafts she has filmed, suggesting a connection between their presence and local geological features like abandoned coal mines. She shares her experiences with online harassment after posting her footage and discusses theories regarding the crafts’ origins, dismissing claims of a government-staged alien invasion. Kruse also talks about her upcoming presentation in New York City.
Transcript
Alan Steinfeld
Welcome to New Realities. This is Alan Steinfeld, and this program is about the evolution of our consciousness, of our planet, of our humanity. And the central issue behind all that, the situation that comes up over and over again decade after decade, despite denial and ridicule, are the appearances of UFOs, and that phenomena is shifting our awareness to something bigger than ourselves. That’s partly why the phenomena is so suppressed, because the people in control don’t want us to know there is something greater out there. We’re going to be covering some of that, and also we’re going to be talking about this phenomena that’s happening over and over again in Pennsylvania. I have tonight’s guest is Alison Kruse, and she’s been videotaping UFOs outside of Pittsburgh for about three years now. We’ll talk about it. Alison, right? How long have you been videotaping UFOs coming out of that area east of Pittsburgh?
Alison Kruse
Well, the phenomenon started in June of 2008 and was seen first by my daughter at about 3:30 in the morning over a neighbor’s house hovering. After that, it started… we thought that was our once in a lifetime UFO sighting, and I was sleeping during it. But the subsequent months after that…
Alan Steinfeld
What did she see?
Alison Kruse
She saw a disk. It hardly had any type of bubble on top of it, but the classic disk. It was glowing red, like pulsing red, and it had a row of white lights that went around the bottom of it. The next day she told me she saw a strange plane. When I made her draw it, it looked just like a saucer. It showed me the neighbor’s house sits down in the valley within a tree line, and she said it kind of wobbled over top of their bedroom and then it took off towards the neighboring town where she was talking to her little friend on the phone, and he saw like six, seven red lights in the sky, got scared and ducked, you know. We didn’t sleep for a long time after that, like a week, thinking it would come back. You’re afraid to go to sleep thinking something’s sneaking around your house. We didn’t see anything else until October. Two days in a row, two different places around here, me and my guy, within 24 hours of each other saw something we couldn’t explain. And the sightings started getting closer and closer and closer together until the spring of 2009, in May of 2009, I just couldn’t take it anymore that these things kept showing up. And the equipment was just too inadequate, regular camcorders. So I made the leap into higher HD camcorders with low lux capability that could actually pick them up. I could really sympathize with all the people that report UFOs and they don’t come out on the screen. It’s black typically with a dot in it.
Alan Steinfeld
So were they coming, describe, are they coming from a specific location, these particular crafts that you’re seeing over and over again or these lights?
Alison Kruse
Since it kept reoccurring, we have a hot tub in my yard and we would see what seemed to be like an outrageous amount of meteors and things streaking across the sky. We’d see flashes of light in the tree line. It’s heavily wooded where I live in rolling hills, it’s pretty steep. I’m at the top of a mountain, basically. And I even bought a surveillance cam and put it out in the yard, it’s a military grade one, just because I thought maybe I was getting a tumor or something seeing random flashes of light in the sky and these streaks. You think your mind’s playing tricks with you. But they were recorded. So I thought, well I’m probably missing other things. I found a higher spot in a farm field across the street from me that’s cleared and stood up on top of there, and the first time me and my daughter stood up top of there, we saw this big orange ball of light rise up out of a patch of woods and it flared up like the sun. In fact, a lot of people call them mini suns. It looked like a mini sun because the color is similar to that. And it’ll flare up and flicker like it’s going to explode or it’s coming at you, but it’s really just expanding in size, I found out by studying them. Because they keep reoccurring in that area, different patches of woods.
Alan Steinfeld
Wait, can you describe that again? Was it evening that you saw this? What is that?
Alison Kruse
Most of them are evening. Although before I had the camera, we did see some things in the daytime including a V-shape thing that was kind of metallic rounded edges kind of tumbling. A silver sphere that looked like it was going in and out of focus to my bare eyes.
Alan Steinfeld
What was this thing that flared up? What was that exactly that you saw?
Alison Kruse
From studying them, like I said, they like my area for some reason. We think it’s probably the old abandoned coal mines that litter the entire area. The coal mines go back a couple hundred, or at least 100 years that I know of. A lot of other areas in the country and even in the UK, the areas that they’re showing up, the same type of UFO, are around old coal mine areas or underground caverns created by some other type of mining. From watching them and spending over $20,000 in various equipment and recording six hours a night typically, and replaying back surveillance cameras and stuff, I can safely say that they either show up looking like an early star in the sky that gets all misty and then makes an explosion type thing, but it’s not really exploding. It’s emitting out other spheres. You can see them sometimes. You can only see them with infrared. These spheres either float down or they hit down, they don’t actually hit anything, they’ll go fast like a meteor down to the tree line or just above the tree line where they pretty much park within trees to hide. Then later on they kind of rise up and they’ll start out typically red, then as they get brighter they turn orange, then yellow, then flare up like the sun.
Alan Steinfeld
You mean they rise up from the ground, you’re saying?
Alison Kruse
Well they never sit on the ground. I’ve walked around the tree with these little bubbles, they look like a bubble sphere. If you want to see what they look like filmed in outer space, NASA’s STS-80 footage shows them coming from behind the ISS. Looking like a faint bubble, and as it goes in front of the ISS, all of a sudden bam, it turns on lit, and they just hover there. I think five or six of them. These are the same things that are coming to my area.
Alan Steinfeld
Did you have any interaction, you walking around them in the forest?
Alison Kruse
Well, I’ve walked around… I discovered that these balls of flaring up things came from these smaller spheres by buying a $3,300 Generation 3 ATN night vision scope after being told that that really can see them good. I went over across the valley. There’s an unfinished part of a golf course there that the woods they like. As I was scoping around looking to see where these things kept coming from that looked like a fireball in the woods before they rise up, I saw this faint bubble thing, round thing going across the fairway. When I looked to see where it came from, there was three blinking spheres, they looked like little Tesla ball globes, and they were up about probably about 20 feet off the ground in a high tree. They just made little blink, blink, blink, blink, blink kind of like an aircraft pattern. At first I thought they were a far away aircraft, but then I walked around the tree and they were in the tree.
Alan Steinfeld
Did you get any form of communication, psychic impressions, any type of interaction on that level?
Alison Kruse
No. In fact, I’ve talked to them. I had a fuzzy, dim one of these same spheres, about the size of a beach ball, soccer ball, they typically range between that. One dropped from the sky and did a slow come to a stop, you know, like an amusement park roller coaster ride comes in and does that controlled slow stop. It dropped real fast and about three feet from the ground it went invisible. I caught out the corner of my eye. I had been zapping his friends coming out of the woods with a green laser pointer. And I think it was coming down to see what the heck I was doing. Check up on me or something.
Alan Steinfeld
So how often are you seeing these things appear in the night sky?
Alison Kruse
Not as much as when they started in 2009 and 2010. Especially through the fall of 2010, it was outrageous. I mean some nights there would be 30, 40, 50 of these things. It was that bad. I had the police come out, tactical surveillance experts came out…
Alan Steinfeld
What did the police say about it when they came out?
Alison Kruse
They reported to the FBI and the military and then they were told it was over their head.
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah, so it was over their head.
Alison Kruse
That guy came out with big, huge, like 500 millimeter surveillance scope. This guy actually did terrorists, you know, seeking trying to find drug dealers and stuff like that. He was a tactical surveillance expert.
Alan Steinfeld
Can you tell us where exactly, you don’t have to tell us where you live, but where exactly, which part of Pennsylvania are you seeing these lights appear?
Alison Kruse
It’s about 22 miles east of Pittsburgh in the county of Westmoreland, which is the same county as the Kecksburg crash. Same county as Stan Gordon does his bigfoot and weird giant bird sightings and things like that. I haven’t seen those yet, but apparently there’s been some reports around my area too, but I don’t want to see bigfoot.
Alan Steinfeld
So is there just a strange energy in that whole county? Is there something you feel about that place that is a little strange?
Alison Kruse
From what I’m reading, I knew nothing of Kecksburg or any of these other things before any of this stuff happened. Somebody told me, “Oh, you should tell Stan Gordon to come out.” But I guess he’s too busy with Bigfoot because he’s never come out. He’s a Bigfoot investigator, UFO guy back I guess in the 70s he started with the UFO stuff. If you Google his name, he does talks and MUFON conventions and stuff like that.
Alan Steinfeld
So anyway, the phenomena you’re saying is dropping off a little bit? It was really big in 2009, 2010, and then it’s less.
Alison Kruse
Let’s see. The spring of 2010, that’s when they got reported to the military and then the military started sending out Apache’s fully armed to come.
Alan Steinfeld
Apache helicopters?
Alison Kruse
Yes. And what the activity would be hovering over the woods and the spheres, I mean they hugged the tree line. All they got to do to hide from anybody sneaking up on them is just dim their lights or drop down back into the woods. They waited till the Apache’s… sometimes the Apache was sitting right there watching them. But it would never get real close. And from what I could tell from other reports, these things have the ability to cut electrical systems in aircraft. So they probably don’t want to try that.
Alan Steinfeld
So the other interesting thing, I mean yeah, these lights are now, you post 80 locations, the Marfa lights and Trout Lake where James Gilliland, he’s seeing very similar lights that you are.
Alison Kruse
Yeah, either it’s the same technology or it’s the same group whose technology looks… they have various displays they do. They can change their look. They can twinkle like the star Sirius if they want. They could be milky orange opaque color. They could look like a ball with flames on the outside. They could look like a plasma ball with swirling red orange plasma inside. They can mix it up, but I only say that they are the same group because they keep showing up and doing repeat behavior of the patrolling back and forth over the coal mines, so I have to assume that they are of the same group, but they have the ability to change their appearance.
Alan Steinfeld
You think they’re actually doing something with these coal mines? They’re hovering over, like accessing some kind of earth energy from these places?
Alison Kruse
Well, I’ve studied a lot of the repeat, I look at UFO reports twice a day, whoever’s reporting them at the various reporting locations online to try to find a pattern of what they might be attracted to in my particular area. All my area is littered with coal mines and it’s high in radon gas. We have iron ore besides the coal, and radon is the decay of radium, radioactive, you know, uranium and whatnot. And from what I can tell, a lot of the other places like Lee’s Summit, Missouri, which has had a wave of this exact same crafts, they have high radon gas, their area is littered with old coal mines also. And I’ve found different old research online about scandium and Hessdalen, Norway lights.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh yeah, I’ve heard about the Hessdalen Norway lights.
Alison Kruse
Same sort of thing. They’ve only gotten one diffraction grading off of it when one of these do their bright thing, the scientists there studying them, and they found scandium element producing the light, as one of the elements producing the light that they can isolate. And that is present in Hessdalen, Norway, so maybe they go there to, you know, get some more of that.
Alan Steinfeld
So there’s obviously some kind of interaction or relationship between these lights or their crafts and the chemicals that are coming out of the ground. It seems as if there is a connection.
Alison Kruse
I would say that it’s a pure geologic attraction to my area.
Alan Steinfeld
For some purposes, some type of fuel source or some kind of something that these crafts are needing, I would assume. I mean, of course we have no way of knowing until they actually tell us.
Alison Kruse
I have seen those spheres suck what looks like a stream of energy off of a cable TV line that ran through the woods. And also the West Penn Power electrical company, they had handed out a memo back in the late 80s saying that UFOs were seen sucking electricity from the power lines. So I assume since the power lines do run through these same woods that after they drop from the sky, they need to like rejuice themselves before they can do that bright thing where they either morph or emerge from these spheres that perhaps are like a travel container.
Alan Steinfeld
The other interesting thing about your work is that once you started to post it on YouTube, you told me someone hacked into your account and your account was closed down as if someone was trying to suppress the information you were putting out there. Can you tell us about that?
Alison Kruse
Yes. I find it amusing now because it obviously hasn’t worked, but it was probably around November 2009 when I bought the night vision and the better camera and then I caught that plasma ball swirling and I think even the meteor drop things into the woods and the little spheres moving around. I actually got a guy that had been with Homeland Security who tracked me down somehow, called my house, and said that if I posted anything more interesting like a humanoid, some kind of ET, actual humanoids instead of just UFOs, then I’d probably get a knock at my door and be taken offline.
Alan Steinfeld
So wait, how often are you seeing these things appear in the night sky?
Alison Kruse
Well, not as much as when they started in 2009 and 2010.
Alan Steinfeld
You posted these other things, the lights, they were up on YouTube, and this guy calls you and he says you’ll actually be taken offline and your computer, he’s threatening you with that?
Alison Kruse
This guy was like a helpful warning. He wasn’t threatening me. He just told me that that would probably happen. And it was not too long after that the internet harassment trolls started, you know, filing false copyright claims on my videos on my channel, which makes your channel be suspended and be taken offline. And I had to fight them, and fighting them, you have to give your real name and address and everything. So they got my real name and address and then they started harassing me personally, hacked my Facebook accounts, stole pictures of my daughter, made fake YouTube channels with her 14-year-old picture. It was pretty ridiculous.
Alan Steinfeld
Wow, who do you think is doing that? Is it the government or a secret government or who do you think was behind that?
Alison Kruse
Well, a lot of people have suggested that the government would have done that, and who knows, maybe they pay some of these people to troll and harass other people, but personally I just think that a couple, about a handful, about five real douchebags are behind the majority of it and I think they think it’s a game or something, you know, entertaining to them. One of them’s in New Jersey, another one’s in Iowa, one’s in Arizona, one’s in Colorado.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, this is something threatening though about what you were doing. I mean, in a way, they’re complimenting you on your work because it’s shaking things up.
Alison Kruse
Yeah, I guess so, and to single out me, when I have a list of over a hundred other people filming and making the same claims I am from various locations around the world, it seems a little ridiculous to only pick on me. But I’m one of the few females doing this.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, a lot of people are ridiculed for this, and I think it is part of a government or secret government program to suppress some of this information.
Alison Kruse
A lot of the methods that they’re using is the defame, slander and ridicule part. They even found somebody with my same name that worked in a bank on the East Coast of Pennsylvania, 5 hours away, and they launched a campaign to try to get who they thought was me fired from my bank job, they thought I had. And I had to call that woman up and tell her, you know, they’re going to try to do that to you.
Alan Steinfeld
So anyway, they did close your YouTube channel?
Alison Kruse
But I got it back. They did it two times. So I had to make a backup channel to post the videos. I just told them, “You’re not going to stop me. Keep trying. I love a challenge, keep it up.”
Alan Steinfeld
What do you think your most threatening video was to some of these people?
Alison Kruse
Well, it started after I had the one video that showed one of these crafts doing its mimic. Just like the Pine Bush, New York made famous UFOs that were studied by Dr. Bruce Cornet. These ones have the ability to project or actually move lights around. We’re not sure if it’s an actual hologram or they actually shapeshift, but they easily copy the navigation arrangement of our aircraft at night.
Alan Steinfeld
And how do you know they’re not aircraft though?
Alison Kruse
They don’t show up on radar as a hit, and when you see them come out of woods, and you can tell that they’re only six feet long when they’re rising up out of the tree line, a thick patch of tree lines.
Alan Steinfeld
And they’re not making any sound either.
Alison Kruse
They’re not making any sound. But they can apparently. They don’t do it too often by me, but the ones that Dr. Cornet studied and like the guy in the UK, he’s got them making sound. And he had one doing a hologramish type thing of a helicopter over a hospital. They thought it was a helicopter for the hospital, and then all of a sudden it turned its cloak off and it just looked like a big sphere UFO. Like a thought with a saucer inside. So we think they have like a bubble anti-gravity type of field around them and maybe they project the hologram inside that bubble to make us see whatever they want to see, like inside of a TV screen or something.
Alan Steinfeld
Do you ever see the plasma ships that the guy in Mexico had a lot of footage of, do you know who I mean?
Alison Kruse
Carlos Diaz, yes.
Alan Steinfeld
Yes. Do they look like that?
Alison Kruse
I’m not sure if that’s the same, but they’re not blurry and they’re not all blobby looking like that. Maybe they… who knows? This type could do I think whatever they wanted to, but I haven’t seen anything that looked like that so far.
Alan Steinfeld
When was the last time you saw some ships and videotaped them?
Alison Kruse
On November 29th of this last month.
Alan Steinfeld
What happened?
Alison Kruse
Oh, it was pretty ridiculous. I went up to the high farm field, and I could see them coming from the lower hills. The farm field is the higher point. There’s only like three points that’s real high. And within the three high hills there’s a couple rolling smaller hills with the coal mines that they like. And they typically will hug those tree lines, and anything beyond those high hills can’t see them doing that action in there. They think they have privacy. So with the leaves gone off the trees, I could see them. I couldn’t really get any good film of that. All you see is a dot moving in the woods. So I went over to where I thought the high hill they used to go down into the coal mines that’s now logged, that stopped them from coming for a long time because they didn’t like their trees being removed from that hill I guess. And well there was just… there by the communication towers, I just posted that one last night.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh you did. So that’s on your YouTube channel, which is what is it again?
Alison Kruse
Seeing UFOs PA.
Alan Steinfeld
S-E-E-I-N-G-U-F-O-S-P-A. Okay, seeing UFOs PA. And so, and this is typical of the phenomenon. Describe again, they just kind of appear out of nowhere these lights, or are they coming up from the ground or descending from the sky?
Alison Kruse
They come from the sky. There’s a local resident, it’s in one of my videos but he has his own channel, he’s called Energy Research, and I have a video, you could probably search YouTube for UFO Stargate Irwin PA. And you’ll see a guy multiple nights, night after night after night, he would see in the sky, the guy has eagle eyes I swear, he would see what looks like Venus out early when the sky is still blue at dusk. And he would watch it and he was like, wow, that’s really odd that that should be that bright. So he started watching it, and all of a sudden it would get misty after about 10, 15 minutes, and then it would pop out other small balls that would just kind of float around, wander around, some would drop to the ground. There’s a… it’s happening everywhere. The guy in Tijuana, Mexico has filmed it, for crying out loud. The guy in California filmed it, he thought he was filming a UFO next to Saturn, and all of a sudden Saturn exploded and did the same thing, dropping these orb things out, it just looks like a star exploded is what it looks like. But these little ball things, I caught them in my night vision just drifting down from the sky, and all of a sudden they start blinking like little Tesla balls. And all of a sudden bam, they turn on a solid light, they’re typically golden color, not a pure white like a regular aircraft light. And during which they’re expanding their sizes from a small sphere. It seems impossible but after seeing them do that within 500 feet from you over and over and over again with trees behind it so you can measure it, and my guy was out there with me. He could get a good guestimation of what their size is. That was the only explanation. And you know, I would drive down the windy road in my car, and you know where you really shouldn’t go past 35 miles an hour up and down hills and have to make a left hand turn, and I would cut one of these off. That’s how slow it was moving. And I think they do it because it gives the illusion of a high flying real aircraft because they stay small. And my alien hunting part 6 of 8 video there’s a constable in the woods, and as he’s going after what he said looked like a little eyeballs in the woods after we saw the UFOs parked way back behind brush he couldn’t get through…
Alan Steinfeld
So are the lights themselves, you feel like beings or the lights sort of crafts, or you can’t really tell what the lights are, what type of thing they are?
Alison Kruse
Well some people have suggested that they’re a living entity in themselves, but one of my contacts in Oregon, his YouTube channel is called Who Took My Mojo, all run together. He has footage of what looks like a translucent shelled craft, and again that would be fitting with my guessing that they have some way of projecting what they want you to think you’re looking at on the outside of this translucent shelled craft, you know like an LCD screen you know that’s see through. But inside looks like humanoid type ETs, and they look, it’s luminous inside their craft, and you could see little bald-headed smaller ones and the taller, faster moving ones which he thinks are the mantis ET types.
Alan Steinfeld
But you haven’t seen that, that was just out of your regular…
Alison Kruse
No, in my one footage something was moving by a tree trunk, but when I was filming it I didn’t see it because the little screen is too small, and I can’t tell from, there’s definitely something moving by the tree trunk in that alien hunting one. But I can’t tell anything specific.
Alan Steinfeld
Have you haven’t had any weird like personal experiences like missing time or any kind of abduction type of association, have you?
Alison Kruse
Before we even saw the first one, I had something happen that… since I’ve caught them, they’ll affect the EMF meter, the ghost meter type things, the Trifield EMF meter, they make them peg, and I’ve actually caught one racing up to my electric meter, which is on the major wire that comes to my house on the other side of my bedroom where my head lays. And I had something happen before, our power would go off in the AM so much. I mean, I thought it was just from living out in the woods, you know, I couldn’t understand why it would go off so often. I thought, well maybe the lines are old and stuff like that. But having caught them on film, after the EMF meter starts pegging, whipping the window open and snapping pictures and one of these little balls of light comes flying up to my electric meter, the thing I had happened in November of 2007 I think was probably an arcing of them stealing the electric off my line. It felt like somebody zapped me or smacked me, you know, like an electrical shock would feel.
Alan Steinfeld
That was just a byproduct.
Alison Kruse
So that, you feel that was like a byproduct of them zapping your electricity or sucking it out of.
Alison Kruse
Yeah, I’ve tried, you know, I’ve tried everybody’s suggestions, you know, doing Morse code, SOS’s, the flash camera things. They try to shy away from pretty much being busted. We have one filming going in complete circles so they don’t have to cross directly over top of me. Over and over again.
Alan Steinfeld
But this is a phenomena in your, in your neighborhood. I mean, do other people get together, I mean it’s not just you that are seeing it, you’re saying it’s like your whole community there, isn’t it?
Alison Kruse
There’s many different areas around the Pittsburgh area and on my YouTube description list, I list each state, country, city, and the people in my local Western PA area that have contacted me after seeing the same kind. And we’ve kind of set up a loose warning list, that they these guys do something more than look and leave, then we’ll send out a mass mailing to everybody giving everybody heads up for a heads up.
Alan Steinfeld
Did that happen? Have you done that yet?
Alison Kruse
Well, I’ve told them, you know, if they’re ramping up their stuff or if there’s some big craft heading towards somebody that’s in the next area over, I’ll tell them that they’re on their way to look out.
Alan Steinfeld
And you have, you have seen, what’s the biggest craft you’ve seen?
Alison Kruse
Oh, at least as long as my neighbor’s house across the valley. I’d say 80 to 100 foot long.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. But the community itself around you, the particular community, do you get together with your local people and say, “Wow, did you see what happened last night?” Or is it not that type of thing?
Alison Kruse
No, our area is kind of a private pretty upscale neighborhood that I really A) don’t want to decrease our property values and have everybody slap their houses up for sale. Like around the golf course where a lot of the activity was, a lot of those houses have changed hands in the last three years. It looks really suspicious to see for sale signs all lined up in that golf course now. But and I’ve had messages sent to me on YouTube from people that said, you know, they’re back, you know, when I said that I hadn’t seen them for a while, you know. So, it’s kind of, I don’t want to go around waving a flag, you know.
Alan Steinfeld
No, no, I understand. You don’t want to like…
Alison Kruse
What I do, my method is to post the evidence so that other people that have seen the same thing have something they can say, “Look, this is what I saw, I’m not crazy.”
Alan Steinfeld
So you’re going to be, you’re going to be in New York next weekend showing some of your videos, right? Can you tell us what exactly?
Alison Kruse
Yeah, there’s going to be an hour I guess at the Theater 80 which is on St. Mark’s Place off of 1st Avenue in the East Village, that’s New York City. At around what time was it, 7 o’clock you’re going to be there?
Alison Kruse
Well the other two New York City UFO filmers, they start at 3:00. I think it’s 3:00. 3:00, and then 4:00. I think I go on at 5:00. But the other one started at 3:00. Each, besides doing like a the look of a star, they also do the look of a balloon. And the other UFO guys, I don’t know if you’ve even seen the news footage of when there was a mass sighting in New York City of several objects that hung around all day, some of them blinking, flashing.
Alan Steinfeld
I did see that. I know some people took the footage of that, that was October 20-something of 2010. It was right after an event I did there with these crystal skulls on 10/10/10 and it seems like somehow people made an association. I don’t know, but it was right over the area that I had this event. So it was strange that they showed up around then. Yeah, I saw the footage of that, they looked like silver lights in the sky.
Alison Kruse
Yeah, that’s a pretty common one there. Being white also is common and orange, red, pinkish, yellow. The, I don’t remember, I think it was Mexico City, Mexico, the UFO they emitted like 80 spheres out of it after spinning around.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh yeah, that Mexican footage is really amazing. But it seems like these particular crafts are after their, they have their own agenda. They’re not here so much to interact with people, they’re here to access energy or gather energy and they’re not necessarily interested in people, these crafts.
Alison Kruse
Well I feel like we’re in a big giant planet zoo myself. And they come and they look, they observe us in our silly ways and you know, maybe they take some samples of our flora and fauna and our mineral deposits, like for instance, coal can only be obtained by the fossilization of organic vegetable, you know, vegetation matter. And if they don’t have trees and whatnot where they come from, then coal is probably a unique item to them. And maybe they come and take a little sample, you know, just check it out and this is how the humans mine the coal that they find, you know, this fossilized plant material.
Alan Steinfeld
But aren’t you amazed though that they’re as prevalent and as ubiquitous and everywhere, as much as they are. I mean that you’re saying they’re in 80 locations in this country and around the world, very similar thing. Why isn’t it on the front page of newspapers, right?
Alison Kruse
Well, there’s, there’s more TV news making the sightings, but they’re still just kind of giddy like, “Oh UFO, somebody seen it, I don’t know what that was, little green men,” and all that. The ridicule factor that was put into effect back when the 1950s UFO wave, that’s how they got people to stop, you know, getting everybody all excited about it. I read somewhere the Air Force actually had a budget to ridicule people, to pay their officers or people that worked with them to go out and harass people who reported these kind of sightings.
Alison Kruse
Well now we have the internet though, and they can’t possibly go out and harass everybody now. And just the, if you do a Google hit for like UFO and the year starting with 2007, and count the number of results by year, then it’s doubled every year since 2007, the number of mentioning of UFO, and or postings about them, and or video sightings of them.
Alan Steinfeld
I mean it’s in the millions. When I googled it, it’s in the millions and millions of websites and articles and blogs and pictures.
Alison Kruse
It’s time for all that garbage to stop and you know, they’d rather have people inside watching the idiot box, you know, and dancing with the stars and you know, watching TV commercials every three minutes to buy stuff instead of being outside seeing these things for themselves. It takes seeing in person, and I understand that. That’s why I could put up with the, you know, the insults from people that don’t know any better.
Alan Steinfeld
So before 2007 though, I mean you maybe weren’t one of those people, but were you not into this or were you always curious about this phenomena?
Alison Kruse
Well I thought it would be cool, you know. I’ve heard of people saying, you know, UFO and I said, well that’d be really cool to see one, but I was an astronomy club person. You know, I only went outside to look at meteor showers and those were always pretty disappointing compared to these things. I mean, some of these have come down looking like giant bolides, neon green, bright orange one, we were expecting a hit and a giant explosion, you know, to create a massive crater. That’s how big these would be. And we never heard any sound from it, no reports reported anywhere and these things were huge. And that seems to be what a lot of people are seeing that. I would see it on the meteor reporting sites. My first thing that we saw, we actually reported it to Tom’s Green Meteor site because we thought it was just a green meteor. But it turns out I would say probably 90% sure it was probably one of these things because they have a habit of being like a neon green color as one of their main colors besides red, orange, yellow and prism white, sparkling different colors.
Alan Steinfeld
When’s the best time to go out and see this stuff? In the evening but anytime of year in the winter or the summer, what’s, is there a better time?
Alison Kruse
Well, in my particular area, it seems they like spring time and fall more so than the middle of summer. Now, maybe because you know, we have seasons changing and stuff like that. And when my activity dies down, I notice down in the, like around Arizona, New Mexico, California picks up then. And anytime it’s raining or rain’s approaching or snow, they in my area at least, they never show up then. The first clear sky night after many nights of rain or some other precipitation, that’s the best night, and it starts anytime right at sunset and they can start anytime after dusk. And when they do show up, it typically lasts two to three hours. If they’re, if they like your area. Like I said, not just a random one, we’re talking, you know, sometimes it could be like eight, twelve, you know, in an hour and they just kind of pace back and forth several times, glowing real bright, hugging the tree line. They like woods for some reason, like I said, I don’t think they have them where they come from. And then they fly off faster somewhere.
Alan Steinfeld
So they appear, do they appear way up in the sky?
Alison Kruse
No, no. Low.
Alan Steinfeld
Low in the sky, over the trees.
Alison Kruse
Like the first ridge over there, so they kind of almost come out of the ridge, would you say? You have to see them do it, either they drop from the sky like a meteor, come to a controlled stop, I’ve had footage where a whole bunch of them is in the woods, some of them are flickering and flashing against a solid dirt hillside in the woods, and I could see them with my night vision but the bare eyes you wouldn’t see anything. And then one by one these little balls rise up to the top of the tree line, they start glowing real bright, flaring up like the sun or like Sirius star or something, and then that light dims down and then typically, not always, but typically here anyway, they’ll start flashing like a small aircraft that’s further away and they’ll fly off.
Alan Steinfeld
And that’ll take, that whole process takes what, about how long?
Alison Kruse
From the time they rise to the top there? Well, it depends. If they’re going to be, if they’re going to morph into a bigger craft, it takes longer for that flaring up thing to go on. The bigger craft that are 60 to 100 feet, they could flare up there for three minutes or so. The Phoenix lights, the Phoenix lights are the same technology, can’t say they’re the same group like I said because more than one could have the same technological appearance when they do this.
Alan Steinfeld
But by now they seem pretty harmless to you, they’re not threatening, they’re just like a curiosity in a way, huh?
Alison Kruse
Well, they haven’t been harmful to me, but I found evidence and sightings in areas where cattle mutilations have gone on. And the cattle mutilations with the various wounds and the draining of blood that’s also similar to human mutilations that have been found in Brazil, for instance, and the wounds match up to Colares, Brazil village attack in 1977. 77 or 80.
Alan Steinfeld
I mean, my theory of cattle mutilations is that they’re needing the blood of the cattle to incubate the hybrid offspring that they’re breeding between aliens and humans. So they need to create these huge vats of womb type material in order to birth these artificially created beings.
Alison Kruse
I think it’s all speculation, you know. I can’t toss any of them out until we know for sure which one is correct. Well, because they also take the soft tissues of these cattle. I mean I haven’t really heard of many human mutilations although there I mean it’s largely cattle, but maybe there were.
Alison Kruse
Well they hide it. There was one in the eastern part of Pennsylvania, a guy was went out riding his ATV, which for, before I forget to mention, the other time frame that they tend to show back up again, and I’ve sat out all night long to see if they would come back since we had seen it my daughter had seen that one over a neighbor’s house at three o’clock in the morning. So I wondered, do these guys come back when we’re sleeping? So I’ve gone out many a night, and sure enough, they’d come down lower, and instead of going over the woods, they would go over people’s houses. I’ve never posted the footage. I don’t want to freak out my neighbors, make them all sell their houses and move away because I thought, well this is just a flap, as they call it, and after they get done checking out my area they’ll move on somewhere and we’ll never see ’em again. And it hasn’t happened yet. So I don’t know if our area’s gonna be an area like Pine Bush, New York, which still has the same crafts coming apparently.
Alan Steinfeld
There’s a guy posting footage of them, whatever he drives at them. He doesn’t live there though. So do you think this has been going on a long time and you just started to notice it in 2007, or is it a pretty recent type of phenomenon?
Alison Kruse
Well, they didn’t start flying over my house after dusk, like I said out of the hot tub in my yard since about 2003, and we didn’t start seeing anything until after probably the summer of 2007 when we kept seeing what we thought were a lot of meteors. So but before that we hadn’t seen anything but my house kind of sits in like a little bowl shape valley top of a hill. It’s not real deep or anything but I don’t have view of the entire area around there, but there’s enough reports on National UFO Reporting Center site for my county indicating that they probably been visiting there for a while.
Alan Steinfeld
So there’s in a way there’s really nothing to do, I mean you’re just an observer you’re just watching the phenomena you’re documenting it, you’re kind of you know just monitoring it and seeing where it goes and what can you do about it right.
Alison Kruse
I can’t really do anything about it but it’s fascinating it sure the heck beats out the stupid TV shows. And why aren’t more people coming forward and saying, “Hey, there’s something happening here?”
Alison Kruse
Well there is and they’re all online. And the only way they can raise their voices is by filming it and putting it on YouTube. And like I said, over 100 people, I can’t fit any more names on my list, but I keep adding more names. There’s another guy, a new one in Longview, Texas. He’s got the same type of activity. And he actually invested in Gen 3 stuff and catching them doing everything pretty much. Mine’s a Generation 3, military grade Generation 3 my new one’s a P because they burned out my last one with their bright lights I guess. And it allows you to see in the dark and it’s not cheap, those start at around $3,000 and then if you add a magnify lens to them, that’s another $300. But the cheaper ones do just a good a job, the cheapest one I can recommend is a Yukon Night Ranger model 28041, and that has a video out jack so you can record to a variety of devices like VCR or portable DVR or something. And that actually can see them and models in between there, but that’s the cheapest one that would work.
Alan Steinfeld
So one thing, as you see them, and I know you said you haven’t had any contact, but do you send out some kind of intention, some kind of thought that perhaps they could pick up on? Is there anything coming from you in that way?
Alison Kruse
I don’t think anything’s coming from me but I know it sounds, it might sound silly but I’ve even tested it on myself because like I said, I used to record every night six hours a night on DVD on my roof surveillance cam, and it’s a military grade one. It was like $320. And it has the Sony night shot type chip inside and it had illuminators that could illuminate 230 feet. And I’ve actually had the orbs come up and look in the windows of my house, I placed that in my yard, and I’ve had them come up and be right over top of my roof. That little ball where I was talking to somebody on the cell phone and it cut out my voice, but not her voice, and she freaked out because I’m like “There’s a UFO right in front of my camera!” And she was like, “Oh my God!” She thought they got me or something, but it was probably just monitoring the signal or something.
Alan Steinfeld
But have you tried to put out some kind of connection or some kind of…
Alison Kruse
Yeah, there was even a guy from Toronto that studied meditation with Sai Baba in India for five years, yeah. And he tried that and they have not responded to anything in a definitive “hey we caught that message.” So whoever this one is, I don’t think it cares about communicating. The CE5 Dr. Greer contact groups, they tried, and they were only 500 feet from the woods where these things typically showed up. And they even tried, and had no effect. Not one orb showed up. There was not one orb showed up at all.
Alan Steinfeld
Because Greer’s method is sort of to make some kind of telepathic.
Alison Kruse
Yeah, they do like a TM meditation kind of thing.
Alan Steinfeld
Right, and they do get a response when Greer’s people are out there in certain locations they do get something.
Alison Kruse
I don’t think it’s this group. It might be another ET group, it’s not them.
Alan Steinfeld
Right, my friend Mark in the city says he puts out a kind of feeling sense and they, he gets a message. I mean that’s a whole other realm, it seems like you’re just documenting the hardcore evidence of what’s there.
Alison Kruse
These might be drones, and maybe that’s why they don’t respond. They could be remotely controlled camcorders for ETs back on their home planet or dimension wherever they come from. There might not be any ETs in them at all. We really can’t understand how a living entity, biological being could be inside these things and expand, shape, size continuously morph like that and be just a biological entity. So maybe they show up you know like Star Trek later on if they want to camp out or something, you know beam themself over here into a fully formed full-size craft. But these little things whizzing around, like I said, if they’re a programmed thing, then that would explain why they don’t respond to our signaling them. And if they’re a program, they’re also here not to interact with people. They’re here to gain some kind of energy source for their craft, like the coal or like the radon gas. Study, and you know pick up a little rejuice themself up on the power lines, you know we have lots of footage of them just coasting along the power lines and hanging around next to radio towers which they could be monitoring our transmissions, who knows maybe they’re even watching TV, I don’t know.
Alan Steinfeld
But have you ever done any like trying to signal them or like with a flashlight and what has happened?
Alison Kruse
Nothing. In fact, that will make them change and fly off faster typically. Like “Oh no, they see us, we have to we have to leave now.”
Alan Steinfeld
Oh I see, so they…
Alison Kruse
They don’t like being busted.
Alan Steinfeld
And so you, in order to get more footage probably don’t want to call that kind of attention to yourself.
Alison Kruse
I noticed it kind of ruined it. And in fact doing it so much, to the ones that came to the house, whenever they would peg the EMF meter, I would whip the camera out, the SLR camera and disable the autofocus, you know, and just keep flashing it, and I would catch all these spheres on the film, and after doing that so many times, now the power to my house hardly ever gets cut now. It used to happen two, three times a week if the weather was not raining of course.
Alan Steinfeld
So you’re saying they’re not zapping your electrical field because they don’t want to be videotaped by you. I guess that kind of taught them a lesson. They thought they were getting away with it I guess before, but now they figure I’m probably going to set a trap for them and in fact I had planned to put trail cams all around my house to bust them doing it. But it’s just very amazing that people around the world are having this same phenomena, exactly the same phenomena, as if we’re being mined for some energy from these ships, and it’s really going unnoticed, it seems hard to believe that the mainstream is… I’m sure the government’s noticing it but…
Alison Kruse
Oh yeah, yeah, the cops that had seen them here, I mean one guy came at least five, six times with his wife even, and then brought the other tactical surveillance team member over there, and he was going to bring his whole force out here, and I guess after talking to the military, that all kind of got hushed up and he got promoted.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh really? You know, it makes it more real for me. As I was investigating crop circles in England, I would be in the circles, and it would just be very strange to just be in these circles, but it wasn’t real, it didn’t sink in until this unmarked Apache helicopter flew over, really low to the ground. It’s probably English government helicopter and started to take pictures and survey for themselves what that crop circle looked like. That’s when, “Oh my god, this stuff, there’s something really strange going on here.” And everybody wants to know about it. So it just adds to it this kind of shadow government surveying it and suppressing the information. And um…
Alison Kruse
That’s stranger than the phenomenon.
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah. And one thing I’d like to point out too is there’s a lot of people trying to claim including Greer’s gang that cattle mutilations are staged things done on purpose by the shadow government, evil cabal, they call it. Saying that oh, black helicopters were seen around the areas where there was cattle mutilations. But having seen what looks like a helicopter morph from a fireball, red fireball with flames coming out, I know for a fact that these UFOs that morph can do a helicopter look. And I’ve seen them fly over, and they actually look like a triangle with the flat side forward, with the you know, the pointed part up in the air with lights along the side of it to mimic, you know, a sideways flying helicopter. So that again fits again with the cattle mutilations being done by this probably the same group. Right. I mean I don’t agree with a lot of what Greer says. I mean some of it’s true, but I don’t think the government is mutilating cattle in that way. I’ve met Linda Moulton Howe who’s done the study on it, and she says the blood is completely drained out of these animals and some of the soft tissue, and they’re dropped sometimes from the sky. And it’s being done in various countries. Shadow governments are not going to go down to Argentina and do it. You know there’s new cases down there right now. But but it’s now a reverse psychology, I’m sure the government would love to have everybody think that we have this super secret program and, “you better not mess with the US cause we’re going to come and do things to you and get away with it.”
Alan Steinfeld
Right, that is part of that whole thing that you don’t know who to believe, which side. But yeah, I think the shadow government is just as bewildered by these types of phenomena as the regular person and they have no idea what’s going on. I mean, maybe they have some idea, but they’re not telling us. Unfortunately, although the disclosure project getting government people to admit that UFOs exist, has now somehow been soiled by all this bizarre garbage being spewed about, about evil cabal and the last card, the last card, there’s gonna be a false alien invasion, you know a 35 year old statement being regurgitated over and over and over again to try to scare everybody. What do you mean, what exactly is the what is it that you’re saying, who’s saying the evil cabal, Greer?
Alison Kruse
Well, when the Greer’s main people, that Carol Rosin, they’re like, “Oh well that’s Dr. Rosin.” I’m like, “She just got a an honorary degree some guy in Africa gave her an honorary doctorate for crying out loud. She was like a secretary or something.”
Alan Steinfeld
Wait, wait, what is she saying? You’re saying…
Alison Kruse
She’s trying to say that Dr. Wernher von Braun on his death bed said that the government will pull out the last card, and the last card to control the population will be a fake alien invasion. That was 35 years ago, give it up Carol, we’re tired of hearing it.
Alan Steinfeld
It hasn’t happened. And you’re saying the government has no idea, they’re not going to pull that card because they don’t have the card to pull.
Alison Kruse
Right. They might have thought of it. They probably said, “Hey, you know, we could take out such and such in whatever country that’s irritating us and blame it on the aliens.” I don’t think that they’re going to do that either, because if they say they are evil aliens they are admitting there are some kind of aliens, and that opens up the whole can of worms. And I don’t think they want to do that. No, the whole can of worms is there, their own energy sources, I think they’re here for their own designs. I mean, I think they’re very advanced and it’s like, perhaps like your dog watching you at the computer, you’d think your dog has any idea what you’re doing? I mean they may be that advanced in intelligence from where we are.
Alison Kruse
Well that’s why I made that, me and another guy, we made a Facebook page called UFO Planet Zoo. Because it sure seems like we’re living on Planet Zoo and aliens come to look and check us out and then leave again. Just like we do at the zoo.
Alan Steinfeld
But I do think there’s an evolution to human consciousness where we will make contact, and this whole phenomenon will start to come to the surface, and will start to make more sense of it. So I think what you’re doing is very courageous, and it’s opening people up to the possibilities and expanding people’s minds. And that’s, that’s the best thing we can do at this point in our history. Is just expand.
Alison Kruse
And that is the only thing really that can be done. That’s why I’ve been trying to do it and I’ve been posting all the information free to educate people at my own expense and on YouTube and sharing it with everybody. And you’re going to be out there, you’re going to keep being out there until, well, as long as they appear. I’m kind of addicted to it right now.
Alan Steinfeld
Well thank you Alison. I think we’re about out of time. But no, I appreciate it and I’ll talk to you more when I meet you. And thanks for all your research.
Alison Kruse
Hey, I just hope it gives people a place to start or if they don’t want to contaminate their own results, they’ll have something to go back to verify what they think is the case.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. Thanks. So that was, we’ve been talking to Alison Kruse, seeing UFOs PA. And again she’ll be in New York next Sunday at Theater 80 along with a whole day of these new films about UFOs in around the world and in our skies. So stay tuned, we’ll be doing more programs about this and related subjects on New Realities. This is Alan Steinfeld, if you want to reach me you can go to my website newrealities.com or email me at newrealities@earthlink.net. Thanks for listening.